Prince Caspian
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I never really had any religion growing up, though out of obligation to some family I still celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, and Passover. I went to temple twice a year but it never did anything for me... actually, I kinda wish I had some religious backing because now there's just the disconnect with anyone who does have those beliefs. It makes it harder to understand and relate to some people when one just doesn't care at all about those institutions.
Oh well. At least I can try to piss off my friend who is going to school to become a minister
Oh well. At least I can try to piss off my friend who is going to school to become a minister
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I'm trying to find who it was that he was friends with. Some famous atheist author...
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Pullman did call the Narnia books racist and sexist, among other things. You can read this old article about it.Pardot Kynes wrote:Maybe I'm thinking of someone else then.Mandy wrote:Was C.S. Lewis raised religious? If his parents were religious and then he grew up and decided he was atheist.. then later changed his mind that makes much more sense.
Pard.. Philip Pullman was about 17 when C.S. Lewis died, I don't think they were ever tight. His Dark Materials is kind of the anti-Chronicles of Narnia though.
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Meh, if I were still in contact with those LoTR loons here in Israel I'd know who it was.
There're some really bored people who've not only learned much about Tolkien's bio', but also on C.S Lewis'.
There're some really bored people who've not only learned much about Tolkien's bio', but also on C.S Lewis'.
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I wish I could have been with you that one last time.
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I'm a LOTR loon, but I don't really see how CS lewis and Tolkien are relatedorald wrote:Meh, if I were still in contact with those LoTR loons here in Israel I'd know who it was.
There're some really bored people who've not only learned much about Tolkien's bio', but also on C.S Lewis'.
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They were really good buddies, Tolkien supposedly used Lewis as inspiration for Treebeard's voice, Tolkien converted Lewis to Christianty (for some reason I've always thought that JRR was an Athiest, joke's on me I guess) , I believe they both taught similar lingistics classes at the same school. That's what I know about them being related off the top of my head.
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They were in the Inklings together.A Thing of Eternity wrote:They were really good buddies, Tolkien supposedly used Lewis as inspiration for Treebeard's voice, Tolkien converted Lewis to Christianty (for some reason I've always thought that JRR was an Athiest, joke's on me I guess) , I believe they both taught similar lingistics classes at the same school. That's what I know about them being related off the top of my head.
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Ya, but that's all speculation on the writing side... they aren't really linked in that aspect.
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The whole ultimate good vs ultimate evil thing was solid christian background
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You're obviously not much of a loon then(well, not LoTR loon ).Pardot Kynes wrote:I'm a LOTR loon, but I don't really see how CS lewis and Tolkien are relatedorald wrote:Meh, if I were still in contact with those LoTR loons here in Israel I'd know who it was.
There're some really bored people who've not only learned much about Tolkien's bio', but also on C.S Lewis'.
I'm not talking about liking the books alone and discussing them on a board, I'm talking about people who're probably qualified to make a biography on Tolkien.
BTW, one of the main loons is also a BwB member, I saw his pic on the BwB site(Tal).
I remember that Tolkien objected more to the overflowing Christinity in the Narnia series as compared with his much more subtle LoTR, not really the "overzealous" part(Tolkien was quite the zealous prick himself BTW).
In memory of Perach, who suffered and died needlessly.
I wish I could have been with you that one last time.
I wish I could have been with you that one last time.
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Well, if you mean from one lame type of Christian to another then yea, though catholics seem to have it harsher.
But I have to mention that Tolkien and his wife had a very romantic relationship, and I think I made him look like a careless jerk by mentioning the convertion of his wife.
But I have to mention that Tolkien and his wife had a very romantic relationship, and I think I made him look like a careless jerk by mentioning the convertion of his wife.
In memory of Perach, who suffered and died needlessly.
I wish I could have been with you that one last time.
I wish I could have been with you that one last time.
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Re: Prince Caspian
Bump.
I just saw all but the first half hour or so of this. (Hadn't seen it, wasn't anything else on.) Who else has seen it?
There's a scene that is REALLY REMINISCENT of something in McDune: when they knock out the underground supports and collapse part of the battlefield leading up to Aslan's How. I've never read any of the the Narnia books, so I don't know if this is in the original, but it is too damned similar to where the Moritanis collapse the seabed battlefield on Grumman in one of the Young Paul flashbacks for it to be a complete coincidence.
So does this mean KJA stole from Narnia?
Anyone know of the use of this tactic in any other fictional works? (I'm assuming it has never been used in actual history.)
I don't believe in coincidence when it comes to the possibility of KJA having lifted something from another work.
I just saw all but the first half hour or so of this. (Hadn't seen it, wasn't anything else on.) Who else has seen it?
There's a scene that is REALLY REMINISCENT of something in McDune: when they knock out the underground supports and collapse part of the battlefield leading up to Aslan's How. I've never read any of the the Narnia books, so I don't know if this is in the original, but it is too damned similar to where the Moritanis collapse the seabed battlefield on Grumman in one of the Young Paul flashbacks for it to be a complete coincidence.
So does this mean KJA stole from Narnia?
Anyone know of the use of this tactic in any other fictional works? (I'm assuming it has never been used in actual history.)
I don't believe in coincidence when it comes to the possibility of KJA having lifted something from another work.
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Re: Prince Caspian
For a second there I thought Orald was back! I'd put my money on KJA not having an original thought.
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Re: Prince Caspian
There's no evidence it's actually ever happened; I'd say that's a safe bet.
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Re: Prince Caspian
I've seen the movie, haven't read the books (yet).
But I've seen something similar used in Lion King 1 & 1/2. (The meerkats dug tunnels beneath the 'battle field' and then caused a collaspe which captured most of the hyenas and drove off the remainder)
And if we look at some of the older movies, I'm sure we could find examples of similar situations occuring.
But I've seen something similar used in Lion King 1 & 1/2. (The meerkats dug tunnels beneath the 'battle field' and then caused a collaspe which captured most of the hyenas and drove off the remainder)
And if we look at some of the older movies, I'm sure we could find examples of similar situations occuring.
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