Shitterhood rage
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They had the CET meet under a dome on Earth. Twenty years previous. No mention of Hawaii.
They make Bomoko a rapist.
It's pretty dire.
They make Bomoko a rapist.
It's pretty dire.
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Do they mention why the meeting is on Earth? It seems rather pointless knowing Salusa Secundus is the capital world of the empire to build a dome on a nuked world.
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Oh, damn. Every time I think they reached the bottom, they continue to dig even more -__-'. Will this also be explained as "Irulan's propaganda of Muad'Dib" like in Paul of Dune?SandChigger wrote:They had the CET meet under a dome on Earth. Twenty years previous. No mention of Hawaii.
They make Bomoko a rapist.
It's pretty dire.
(As a side note, who is the in-universe author of Appendix II in Dune, where it is clearly stated that the CET met on an island on Old Earth? Is it always Irulan's writing?)
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I was just skimming and after finding a mention of the post-CET riots toward the end of the book skimmed forward to see exactly what was said about it. No mention of why it was held on Earth that I've found yet.Serkanner wrote:Do they mention why the meeting is on Earth? It seems rather pointless knowing Salusa Secundus is the capital world of the empire to build a dome on a nuked world.
They've never implied the author was Irulan, so far as I've noticed.Rymoah wrote:Oh, damn. Every time I think they reached the bottom, they continue to dig even more -__-'. Will this also be explained as "Irulan's propaganda of Muad'Dib" like in Paul of Dune?
(As a side note, who is the in-universe author of Appendix II in Dune, where it is clearly stated that the CET met on an island on Old Earth? Is it always Irulan's writing?)
That would represent quite a stretch even for them, seeing how the intro to The Butlerian Jihad implies that it (the introduction itself, and maybe the whole Legends trilogy) was written by Irulan: the two documents are not consistent, seeing how Appendix II makes no mention of the Titans or Omnius.
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Let's see, here's some more shit:
- Norma Cenva is still around, mutated far from human norm, warping about in her special gas canister.
- Tupile already exists. Edit: My bad: according to the Religion appendix, Bomoko was said to have died on Tupile, so the planet/place/name being known in this time period is consistent with FH.
- The Bene Gesserit practice of not allowing mothers to raise their own daughters (or even letting the latter know who the former are, until/unless they become RMs) is apparently just the result of a falling out between the first RM and her daughter over the raising of the granddaughter (who's a "Butlerian", btw); the daughter is banished and the granddaughter only learns all this when she herself becomes an RM (the second one ever, maybe?).
I'm sure there's just oodles more.
- Norma Cenva is still around, mutated far from human norm, warping about in her special gas canister.
- Tupile already exists. Edit: My bad: according to the Religion appendix, Bomoko was said to have died on Tupile, so the planet/place/name being known in this time period is consistent with FH.
- The Bene Gesserit practice of not allowing mothers to raise their own daughters (or even letting the latter know who the former are, until/unless they become RMs) is apparently just the result of a falling out between the first RM and her daughter over the raising of the granddaughter (who's a "Butlerian", btw); the daughter is banished and the granddaughter only learns all this when she herself becomes an RM (the second one ever, maybe?).
I'm sure there's just oodles more.
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Should I recognise that name?They make Bomoko a rapist.
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Yes.SadisticCynic wrote:Should I recognise that name?They make Bomoko a rapist.
He was the Zensunni Ulema who chaired the C.E.T.
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*Checks Appendix* Well, I'll be damned...
It's really starting to annoy me at their repeatedly shallow treatment of corruption in religion (and anywhere else).
It's really starting to annoy me at their repeatedly shallow treatment of corruption in religion (and anywhere else).
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Dune Nukem Forever?
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Kloud wrote:Dune Nukem Forever?
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Duke Nukem Forever is the title of a video game, the most recent of the Duke Nukem series. It was in production for 10+ years, and was highly anticipated, only to turn out to be the biggest turd of a game ever.
So Dune Nukem Forever would be an apt analogy, if anyone had the expectation of KJA actually writing a good book.
So Dune Nukem Forever would be an apt analogy, if anyone had the expectation of KJA actually writing a good book.
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I don't think anyone expected that.
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Ampoliros wrote:Duke Nukem Forever is the title of a video game, the most recent of the Duke Nukem series. It was in production for 10+ years, and was highly anticipated, only to turn out to be the biggest turd of a game ever.
So Dune Nukem Forever would be an apt analogy, if anyone had the expectation of KJA actually writing a good book.
Well, I did... of course, in our country KJA's reputation is completly unheard. I hoped for the best until i red about the invisible ship created by a mad ixian scientist with no name...Freakzilla wrote:I don't think anyone expected that.
(...i've been to the desert on a worm with no name, it felt good to be out of the rain...)
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High expectations don't last long with these two, you'll be constantly surprised how low they will go.
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4.0 out of 5 stars exciting, fast-paced science fiction, January 3, 2012
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Over eight decades ago, humanity defeated the tyrannical sentient cybernetics at the key Battle of Corrin. Debate rages over the use of safe machines in the everyday lives of people.
First Reverend Mother of the Sisterhood Raquella Berto-Anirul opens the Bene Gesserit School on the rainforest planet of Rossak as a place to teach women to use technology to improve their lot. The Venport descendants deploy mutated Navigators to fly early versions of Heighliners. On the other side of the argument is the Butlerian opposition, led by Manford Torondo and Swordmaster Anari Idaho, against technology as being dangerous. Soon everyone will have to pick a side as a human civil war over machinery seems imminent.
This is an exciting, fast-paced but thin Dune science fiction thriller as two diametrically opposite visions of the future surface even eighty plus years since the war against the machines. With what is going on in DC, Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson provide a timely tale built on the premise that idealism without pragmatism can turn into uncompromising tyranny.
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4.0 out of 5 stars exciting, fast-paced science fiction, January 3, 2012
By Harriet Klausner - See all my reviews
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This review is from: Sisterhood of Dune (Hardcover)
Over eight decades ago, humanity defeated the tyrannical sentient cybernetics at the key Battle of Corrin. Debate rages over the use of safe machines in the everyday lives of people.
First Reverend Mother of the Sisterhood Raquella Berto-Anirul opens the Bene Gesserit School on the rainforest planet of Rossak as a place to teach women to use technology to improve their lot. The Venport descendants deploy mutated Navigators to fly early versions of Heighliners. On the other side of the argument is the Butlerian opposition, led by Manford Torondo and Swordmaster Anari Idaho, against technology as being dangerous. Soon everyone will have to pick a side as a human civil war over machinery seems imminent.
This is an exciting, fast-paced but thin Dune science fiction thriller as two diametrically opposite visions of the future surface even eighty plus years since the war against the machines. With what is going on in DC, Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson provide a timely tale built on the premise that idealism without pragmatism can turn into uncompromising tyranny.
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Why were the navigators mutated back then?The Venport descendants deploy mutated Navigators to fly early versions of Heighliners.
Also, I haven't read any of their early-McDune-universe bullshit- but it seems to me that there is no progression. I mean... how do I put this? All of a sudden, everything is just there. All of a sudden, there is a Reverend Mother, and she opens the first Bene Gesserit School. Heighliners have been around and now they are being piloted by mutated pilots. Shit like that. Well, to be fair, I haven't read the books and don't really know what I'm talking about.
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All that shit already happened in their previous books.
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Freakzilla wrote:All that shit already happened in their previous books.
Their previous books were not well written, from what I understand. It's like, the Bene Gesserit didn't really evolve from some earlier organization(s), they just came to be (kind of). I think I read that the first Reverend Mother came to be by tripping into a pool laced with acid, or some shit like that.
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and if it didn't, it was implied ... a careful reader could figure it out ...Freakzilla wrote:All that shit already happened in their previous books.
atleast, that's what Keith keeps saying in all the email "interviews" ...
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so the new McDune is out, right ?
in the entire forum devoted to it Over There, I counted a total of 25 posts ..
(and atleast fucking half were put up by OH sockpuppets ...)
it's GOT to be totally Official now : dunenovels.com is mutha-fucken DEAD ...
(in fairness (gawd knows why) I'd wonder if all the fanboy action isn't occurring on the facebook ...? )
in the entire forum devoted to it Over There, I counted a total of 25 posts ..
(and atleast fucking half were put up by OH sockpuppets ...)
it's GOT to be totally Official now : dunenovels.com is mutha-fucken DEAD ...
(in fairness (gawd knows why) I'd wonder if all the fanboy action isn't occurring on the facebook ...? )
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You gotta love it, though, because it's the ultimate KJA slap in the face to the Herberts: he participates actively on the Facebook groups, like he never would on DuneNovels.com. (Doesn't say much for his confidence in Uncle Mike, either, come to think of it.)
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Same old crap, with a fresh slate of a comments section.
Same old crap, with a fresh slate of a comments section.
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"Sacred"? I don't think it means what he thinks it means.Apjak wrote:http://www.sacbee.com/2012/01/02/415693 ... verse.html
Same old crap, with a fresh slate of a comments section.
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"I went into a safe deposit box and found a floppy disk," Herbert recalled. "Dad had written on it, 'Dune 7 Notes.' It held 30 pages of outlines and character ideas."
Now it's 30 pages.
Now it's 30 pages.
Paul of Dune was so bad it gave me a seizure that dislocated both of my shoulders and prolapsed my anus.
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