Slugger wrote:redbugpest wrote:So do I, but you seem to want to micro manage it.
What do you mean by that? Please enlighten me on how I "seem to want to micro manage it"? That table-turning argumentative cliche is weak...and something I'd expect my sister. ("I know you are but what am I?")
You are micromanaging it in the sense that you do not believe anyone has the right to imagine anything that you do not approve of.I believe it was Schu, who over at DN (and here?) has stated that the premise of the last book in the most recent series (about the early years of Leto II) is unnecessary - nothing happened in between Childern and GEoD. I find that to be unimaginative. I think there is a lot of potential to talk about the famine times, the scattering, Leto II's transformation, etc, and that no book should be written. The same was said about WoD. Nothing happened between DM and Children. Your argument is that Frank didn't mention it, so it didn't happen, yet Fran himself wanted readers to use their imaginations to fill in the gaps.
Slugger wrote: redbugpest wrote:I should have said extremist instead, because, yes, the far left is as bad as the far right.
But you didn't and that's the important part. This isn't like live discussion, where words just spew spontaneously from mouths; you can review your words prior to clicking submit in order to exactly declare your intentions.
You are right, but that still will not guarantee that the people reading them will not misunderstand the meaning behind them. It is disingenuous to hold me to a standard that is unattainable by anyone here or anywhere else. I would suggest that you review how communication loops work in society. I as the sender, encode my message (words in this case). I send it via the media I have chosen, and then you (and all the others who browse this forum) interpret the message and respond back based on your independent interpretations. I, in turn then have to asses whether you have understood the message that I sent prior to continuing the conversation. If I find that your response indicates that you did not understand the message as it was intended, then it is up to me to clarify the message. I won't get into how "noise" also can work on distorting the meaning. It is clear that, on seeing that you misunderstood the message I intended, that I clarified it.
Slugger wrote: redbugpest wrote:In this particular debate, you are representing a more conservative doctrine. The very name "Orthodox Herbertarians" attests to a conservative mindset.
You failed to address my question (wow, and I was thinking that the others were being too harsh on you). Don't attempt to analyze and us against me my writing when you can't clarify and justify yours. In this debate, I put-forth a neutral question; I clearly chose "OH" because it is the name of the group I was contrasting KJA against.
Actually, I did address your question, which was at the bottom of your post, and was specific to my choice of wording, which lead you to believe it was solely an ultra conservative rant. I attached the only question I saw below for clarity's sake (everything else was a statement).
Slugger wrote:I don't want to get in the middle of this epic argument, but...
redbugpest wrote:I suspect that this post will draw a lot of negative comments, but it is the way I feel, and applies in real life. Can you imagine what life would be like if the ultra conservatives ran the world? there would be no real rights and freedoms, and no innovation or original thought. As distasteful as you may find it, there has to be room for us all.
What does that whole "ultra conservative" rant have to do about anything? That in itself is revealing. What about the ultra-liberals? They're saviors? Are you implying that the OH are "ultra conservatives" and that the Hack is a savior to Dune? He's teh SUPER-DOOPER KWISTART HADERACK!!!!!1!
If there was another question, then you failed to convey it to me, and should, after reviewing this restate it in a more clear and concise manor.