Shilling KJA-style may become illegal?
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Hi Redbug...
Thanks for the answers. Sorry to have been pestering you, but it was becoming a bit ridiculous that I did not even know your position...
Anyway, I have an open question to all here - where did the "point for reviews/posts/whatever" come from. I seem to recall it was directly from text lifted from "within" KJASF - was this not the case?
If the text from KJASF last posted by RBP is in effect, I don't think it is illegal (IANAL, though). But I still find it problematic - you get invited, get priviliges and you are expected to do certain things. If this is the case, it is a case both comparable to a paid review, but equally comparable to a "treehouse" situation - it is relevant that a reviewer is from KJASF the same way it is relevant that a reviewer is from Jacurutu. Not so much because one can say "this is to be expected from that bunch", but because you know the "guys back home" are probably exerting some kind of peer pressure.
So problematic, and a bit pathetic. If it had been done up-front, not a problem.
Thanks for the answers. Sorry to have been pestering you, but it was becoming a bit ridiculous that I did not even know your position...
Anyway, I have an open question to all here - where did the "point for reviews/posts/whatever" come from. I seem to recall it was directly from text lifted from "within" KJASF - was this not the case?
If the text from KJASF last posted by RBP is in effect, I don't think it is illegal (IANAL, though). But I still find it problematic - you get invited, get priviliges and you are expected to do certain things. If this is the case, it is a case both comparable to a paid review, but equally comparable to a "treehouse" situation - it is relevant that a reviewer is from KJASF the same way it is relevant that a reviewer is from Jacurutu. Not so much because one can say "this is to be expected from that bunch", but because you know the "guys back home" are probably exerting some kind of peer pressure.
So problematic, and a bit pathetic. If it had been done up-front, not a problem.
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You remember correctly. Examples of the original pay-for-play text can still be found both here and at Amazon.Lundse wrote:I seem to recall it was directly from text lifted from "within" KJASF - was this not the case?
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we don't get trinklets here
and I personaly find it really annoying when people evade questions and dodge answers, if any one of kja's cronies came and adressed whatever's the question at the time it would be a refreshing change(at least that's the feel I got from the Cast Out side, the other side's echo being more of moaning an' bitchin' than real constructive argument)
So there are some questions that will never be answered, but in the end everyone knows that if writing were a boxing match KJA would be counting his teeth on the floor first round in a literary fight with Frank
and I personaly find it really annoying when people evade questions and dodge answers, if any one of kja's cronies came and adressed whatever's the question at the time it would be a refreshing change(at least that's the feel I got from the Cast Out side, the other side's echo being more of moaning an' bitchin' than real constructive argument)
So there are some questions that will never be answered, but in the end everyone knows that if writing were a boxing match KJA would be counting his teeth on the floor first round in a literary fight with Frank
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So ... after 7 pages of this shit all we have really learned is that KJA has stopped rewarding KJASF members for shill reviews.
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Yup, and not even for sure, only on the word of someone who may (or apparently may not...) actually have a membership and know what's going on.
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(No, he's finally admitted he's a member. But that wasn't news, since we knew it already. But yeah, we have only his rather dubious word that da shillin' has stopped.)
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Pics or it didn't happen.SandChigger wrote:(No, he's finally admitted he's a member. But that wasn't news, since we knew it already. But yeah, we have only his rather dubious word that da shillin' has stopped.)
A screen capture should be pretty easy?
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Although I may or may not subscribe to this idea, I have it on good authority that this thread is indeed hilarious even though the method to determine its being called hilarious is under review.
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Correction: the PAID shilling has stopped.rain_maker wrote:Pics or it didn't happen.SandChigger wrote:(No, he's finally admitted he's a member. But that wasn't news, since we knew it already. But yeah, we have only his rather dubious word that da shillin' has stopped.)
A screen capture should be pretty easy?
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Or at least the connection between writing reviews and receiving merch is no longer explicit. Wink.
I'd be interested to know why the direct fan-activity <-> points <-> merch system on KJASF changed. Who objected to the original scheme? What was wrong with it?
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I'd be interested to know why the direct fan-activity <-> points <-> merch system on KJASF changed. Who objected to the original scheme? What was wrong with it?
HBJ
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