MEDITEATRO
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- mediteatro
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MEDITEATRO
Hello everybody. Some of you already know me, but for that not, I am one of the guys most disappointed with the HLP of the planet. My friends and I (spanish college students) devote ourselves to make three non-profit-making fan films based on the DUNE first book for almost 8 years. We did a trailer and decided to share it with other Dune fans of the whole world for free (many of you you could see it in youtube) while we were finishing the movies. The HLP (the herberts) prohibited us the trailer (and fan films) and withdrew it by means of attorneys. So I can say that I am the director of DUNE: THE FORBIDDEN MOVIE.
- orald
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Welcome!
I still have to ask, maybe Omph can explain it to me- how come the HLP can even do anything if it's non-profit? How do these cease and desist warnings work?
I still have to ask, maybe Omph can explain it to me- how come the HLP can even do anything if it's non-profit? How do these cease and desist warnings work?
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In memory of Perach, who suffered and died needlessly.
I wish I could have been with you that one last time.
I wish I could have been with you that one last time.
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- mediteatro
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When there is no spirit of profit the owners of the copyright can stop the distribution if they believe that it damages their property. It is possible to resort to courts and sometimes the judgment is favorable and others it is in opposition to the makers of the fan film. The normal thing is that the owner of the copyright takes advantage of the free advertising, but already you know ... it is the HLP. It seems to be that our low-budget-home-movie done in Spain by students was obstructing the multimillionaire super production of Hollywood deals and we did not like to fight us with the Herbert's attorneys at Manhattan, the truth is that we have more important things to do that to spend our money in this kind of people.
EDIT: I must say that from the HLP, Byron Merritt was the only one that showed interest for our fan film.
EDIT: I must say that from the HLP, Byron Merritt was the only one that showed interest for our fan film.
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Yes, this is correct.
Orald, the issue is not whether or not the movie makes money. The issue is whether or not producing it and selling tickets causes damages to the HLP. Profits earned with someone else's property are only one measure of damages. But the HLP could, and did I believe, argue that the release of a fan movie would hurt their chances of signing a contract for the major release Dune movie that is coming in 2009 or 2010.
The way it works is this: The HLP sends a "cease and desist" letter to Mediteatro. If Mediteatro does not distribute the film, then the issue is closed. If they keep working on it and were intending to distribute it, then the HLP would file a claim with a court asking for a temporary restraining order, then an injunction ordering Mediteatro to stop. If Mediteatro violated that, then the HLP could file a lawsuit for damages.
Orald, the issue is not whether or not the movie makes money. The issue is whether or not producing it and selling tickets causes damages to the HLP. Profits earned with someone else's property are only one measure of damages. But the HLP could, and did I believe, argue that the release of a fan movie would hurt their chances of signing a contract for the major release Dune movie that is coming in 2009 or 2010.
The way it works is this: The HLP sends a "cease and desist" letter to Mediteatro. If Mediteatro does not distribute the film, then the issue is closed. If they keep working on it and were intending to distribute it, then the HLP would file a claim with a court asking for a temporary restraining order, then an injunction ordering Mediteatro to stop. If Mediteatro violated that, then the HLP could file a lawsuit for damages.
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That is a truly scary thought.Omphalos wrote:Despite what some others say, there are no other "more manageable" people over there.orald wrote:And if P&B were to die in a totally natural yet timely explosion of their office and someone more managable were to inherit them? I'm just saying...
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leto247 wrote:Welcome Mediteatro. Suerte y animo.
OMG, ban him! Ban him good!Freakzilla wrote:5. English only. Non-English posts will be deleted. (Exceptions: Galach and Chakobsa)
Well, I had to, I mentioned just such a case...though I expected French.
In memory of Perach, who suffered and died needlessly.
I wish I could have been with you that one last time.
I wish I could have been with you that one last time.
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Welcome Mediteatro from another one who would have truly liked to see your movie and I am too still pissed off by that bunch of wankers that call themselves HLP.
My advice would be to finish the movie ( quietly ) and distribute it ( also quietly ) via the internet. Once released online it will be an integrated part of the www forever and fame will be yours.
My advice would be to finish the movie ( quietly ) and distribute it ( also quietly ) via the internet. Once released online it will be an integrated part of the www forever and fame will be yours.
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