Marcio Rocha Pereira

[lotek]

yeah I doubt we have many fans of chasing our own tails here...

or have we?

[Eyes High]

yeah I doubt we have many fans of chasing our own tails here...

or have we?

No but I think some of our members do like to chase tails, just not their own.

[mrpsbrk]

Start 10,000 threads for all I care; in about 30 seconds, you'll be on my Foe List until the end of time.

Man, and i am the troll. You threaten to put me on your "foes list" after i POSTED A MESSAGE ASKING ANYONE WHO IS NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT I HAVE TO WRITE TO PUT ME IN THEIR FOES LIST.

In other words: i do not care about your attention. In fact, i am asking you politely to PLEASE PUT ME IN YOUR FOES LIST. Please, pretty please, IGNORE EVERYTHING THAT I WRITE.

Chig had me on invisible and my life WAS SO MUCH BETTER FOR IT. It seems, sadly, that he recanted and now he is back at replying to my stuff.

And now let me reveal the one big reason why i COULDN'T CARE LESS IF YOU STOP READING MY POSTS: i have different interests than you do. This might seem unbelievable to you, i guess, but so it is. When i start musing about the Philosophical side of the GP and some people who are not AT ALL interested in such a subject appear and start writing about stuff that has nothing to do with the philosophy, said person DECREASES THE SIGNAL TO NOISE RATIO of the thread, or, in plain English, he makes it more difficult to find the on-topic amongst the off-topic. Which leads to most people just skimming. I care not if i open a thread and no one replies. But if in a hundred years someone sees my lonely post and decides to GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO IT and, miracle of miracles, decides to discuss what i was discussing originally, then he will not have to sift through all the nay-sayers.

I like criticism. Even the clueless criticism is more useful than praise. Now your criticism sincerely is too close to brain-dead to my taste.

Again, please, pretty please, pretty please with sugar on top: PUT ME ON YOUR FOE LIST! How much more do i have to beg?

[merkin muffley]

if in a hundred years someone sees my lonely post and decides to GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO IT and, miracle of miracles, decides to discuss what i was discussing originally, then he will not have to sift through all the nay-sayers.

What about all the times you've been given a quote from one of the books that directly contradicts the basis of your idea? Many times, it just doesn't seem like you've read the book, but still you persist with the same bizarre train of thought. Everyone and their cat is talking about it, but your biggest naysayer is probably Frank Herbert.

if in a hundred years someone sees my lonely post and decides to GIVE SOME THOUGHT TO IT

[mrpsbrk]

So you can stop pretending there is anyone that actually forces you to read what i write.

Don't get snarky. The reason people are getting a bit fed up is that you're raising ideas that are either flatly contradicted by the books, or, at best, not at all supported by them and therefore wildly speculative.

Maybe that's the reason i create a different thread? That i don't disturb other people's discussions with notions that are too far-fetched? Come on, it is not like i am D.O.S.ing the server with my millions of posts, right?

I'll grant it that i "wildly speculative" does not sound bad to me. Then what?

When people reply to your posts saying that, your tendency has been to change what you're saying in a way that makes it more difficult to understand what your point is, or to maintain that the way you see things must be true anyway. We want to discuss Dune here, but most people lose patience when the discussion goes nowhere fast, or goes round in circles.

So, is it bad that i change my ideas?

If you are not interested in my "snarky" stuff, it is OK. But what usually happens is that people come around and have fits that i disagree with them. "Agree to disagree", anyone?

Curiously, i even came around and said, time and time again, that i do not think they are wrong and that i was merely intrigued by a different interpretation possibility. They are all points-of-view, i didn't even make my mind exactly about what is my preferred one -- i assume there might be more than one layer of meaning on FH's work. In anyone's work, really, but FH being such a master in his case this "multi-layered-ness" aspect would be more pronounced...

[SandChigger]

Being both a dick and a cunt will make it so much easier for you to go fuck yourself.

[merkin muffley]

(SELF-EDIT: Unintended slur, my apologies to all [except mrpsbrk, you're a twat])

[TheDukester]

In fact, i am asking you politely to PLEASE PUT ME IN YOUR FOES LIST. Please, pretty please, IGNORE EVERYTHING THAT I WRITE.

Done.

Last piece of advice: try reading the words of the six Dune books as they actually appear on the page. No one is interested in what words you'd like those to be. Just the actual words.

Poseur.

[lotek]

Again, please, pretty please, pretty please with sugar on top: PUT ME ON YOUR FOE LIST! How much more do i have to beg?

again again mista!


you funny
you make me laugh

is it this you're looking for?

[Robspierre]

Again, please, pretty please, pretty please with sugar on top: PUT ME ON YOUR FOE LIST! How much more do i have to beg?

again again mista!


you funny
you make me laugh

is it this you're looking for?

Scuse me i'm here for my appointment...

Rob

[merkin muffley]

is it this you're looking for?

Scuse me i'm here for my appointment...

[SandRider]

A reception desk in a sort of office building.....

Receptionist: Yes, sir?
Man: I'd like to have an argument please.

Receptionist: Certainly, sir. Have you been here before...?
Man: No, this is my first time.

Receptionist: I see. Do you want to have the full argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?
Man Well, what would be the cost?
Receptionist: Yes, it's one pound for a five-minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.
Man: Well, I think it's probably best if I start with the one and see how it goes from there. OK?

Receptionist : Fine. I'll see who's free at the moment ... Mr. Du-Bakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory ... yes, try Mr. Barnard - Room 12.
Man: Thank you.


The man walks down a corridor. He opens door 12. There is a man at a desk.

Mr Barnard (shouting): What do you want?
Man: Well I was told outside ...
Mr Barnard: Don't give me that you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
Man : What!
Mr Barnard: Shut your festering gob you tit! Your type makes me puke! You vacuous toffee-nosed malodorous pervert!
Man: Look! I came here for an argument.
Mr Barnard (calmly): Oh! I'm sorry, this is abuse.
Man : Oh I see, that explains it.
Mr Barnard: No, you want room 12A next door.
Man: I see - sorry. (exits)

Mr Barnard Not at all. (as he goes) Stupid git.

Outside 12A. The man knocks on the door.

Mr Vibrating (from within): Come in.
The man enters the room. Mr Vibrating is sitting at a desk.
Man : Is this the right room for an argument?
Mr Vibrating: I've told you once.
Man: No you haven't.
Mr Vibrating : Yes I have.
Man : When?
Mr Vibrating: Just now!
Man : No you didn't.
Mr Vibrating : Yes I did!
Man : Didn't.
Mr Vibrating : Did.
Man: Didn't.
Mr Vibrating : I'm telling you I did!
Man : You did not!
Mr Vibrating : I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?
Man: Oh ... Just a five-minute one.
Mr Vibrating : Fine (makes a note of it; the man sits down) Thank you. Anyway, I did.
Man: You most certainly did not.
Mr Vibrating : Now, let's get one thing quite clear. I most definitely told you!
Man: You did not.
Mr Vibrating : Yes I did.
Man: Didn't.
Mr Vibrating : Yes I did.
Man : Didn't.
Mr Vibrating : Yes I did!!
Man : Look, this isn't an argument.
Mr Vibrating : Yes it is.
Man : No it isn't, it's just contradiction.
Mr Vibrating : No it isn't.
Man : Yes it is.
Mr Vibrating : It is not.
Man : It is. You just contradicted me.
Mr Vibrating : No I didn't.
Man : Ooh, you did!
Mr Vibrating : No, no, no, no, no.
Man : You did, just then.
Mr Vibrating : No, nonsense!
Man : Oh, look this is futile.
Mr Vibrating ; No it isn't.
Man ; I came here for a good argument.
Mr Vibrating ; No you didn't, you came here for an argument.
Man : Well, an argument's not the same as contradiction.
Mr Vibrating : It can be.
Man : No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements to establish a definite proposition.
Mr Vibrating : No it isn't.
Man : Yes it is. It isn't just contradiction.
Mr Vibrating : Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
Man :But it isn't just saying 'No it isn't'.
Mr Vibrating: Yes it is.
Man : No it isn't, Argument is an intellectual process ... contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.
Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.
Man : Yes it is.
Mr Vibrating : Not at all.
Man: Now look!
Mr Vibrating : (pressing the bell on his desk) That's it. Good morning.
Man : But I was just getting interested.
Mr Vibrating : Sorry the five minutes is up.
Man : That was never five minutes just now!
Mr Vibrating : I'm afraid it was.
Man : No it wasn't.
Mr Vibrating : I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more.
Man : What!?
Mr Vibrating : If you want me to go on arguing you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
Man : But that was never five minutes just now ... oh Come on! (Vibrating looks round as though man was not there) This is ridiculous.
Mr Vibrating : I'm very sorry, but I told you I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.
Man : Oh. all right. (pays) There you are.
Mr Vibrating : Thank you.
Man : Well?.
Mr Vibrating: Well what?
Man: That was never five minutes just now.
Mr Vibrating : I told you I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!
Man : I've just paid.
Mr Vibrating: No you didn't.
Man : I did! I did! I did!
Mr Vibrating : No you didn't.
Man : Look I don't want to argue about that.
Mr Vibrating : Well I'm very sorry but you didn't pay.
Man : Aha! Well if I didn't pay, why are you arguing ... got you!
Mr Vibrating : No you haven't.
Man : Yes I have ... if you're arguing I must have paid.
Mr Vibrating : Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.
Man : I've had enough of this.
Mr Vibrating : No you haven't.
Man : Oh shut up! (he leaves and sees a door marked complaints; he goes in) I want to complain.

[Freakzilla]

My hovercraft is full if eels.

[Hunchback Jack]

Drop your panties, officer, I cannot wait 'til lunchtime!

HBJ

[SadisticCynic]

A reception desk in a sort of office building.....

Receptionist: Yes, sir?
Man: I'd like to have an argument please.

Receptionist: Certainly, sir. Have you been here before...?
Man: No, this is my first time.

Receptionist: I see. Do you want to have the full argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?
Man Well, what would be the cost?
Receptionist: Yes, it's one pound for a five-minute argument, but only eight pounds for a course of ten.
Man: Well, I think it's probably best if I start with the one and see how it goes from there. OK?

Receptionist : Fine. I'll see who's free at the moment ... Mr. Du-Bakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory ... yes, try Mr. Barnard - Room 12.
Man: Thank you.


The man walks down a corridor. He opens door 12. There is a man at a desk.

Mr Barnard (shouting): What do you want?
Man: Well I was told outside ...
Mr Barnard: Don't give me that you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
Man : What!
Mr Barnard: Shut your festering gob you tit! Your type makes me puke! You vacuous toffee-nosed malodorous pervert!
Man: Look! I came here for an argument.
Mr Barnard (calmly): Oh! I'm sorry, this is abuse.
Man : Oh I see, that explains it.
Mr Barnard: No, you want room 12A next door.
Man: I see - sorry. (exits)

Mr Barnard Not at all. (as he goes) Stupid git.

Outside 12A. The man knocks on the door.

Mr Vibrating (from within): Come in.
The man enters the room. Mr Vibrating is sitting at a desk.
Man : Is this the right room for an argument?
Mr Vibrating: I've told you once.
Man: No you haven't.
Mr Vibrating : Yes I have.
Man : When?
Mr Vibrating: Just now!
Man : No you didn't.
Mr Vibrating : Yes I did!
Man : Didn't.
Mr Vibrating : Did.
Man: Didn't.
Mr Vibrating : I'm telling you I did!
Man : You did not!
Mr Vibrating : I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?
Man: Oh ... Just a five-minute one.
Mr Vibrating : Fine (makes a note of it; the man sits down) Thank you. Anyway, I did.
Man: You most certainly did not.
Mr Vibrating : Now, let's get one thing quite clear. I most definitely told you!
Man: You did not.
Mr Vibrating : Yes I did.
Man: Didn't.
Mr Vibrating : Yes I did.
Man : Didn't.
Mr Vibrating : Yes I did!!
Man : Look, this isn't an argument.
Mr Vibrating : Yes it is.
Man : No it isn't, it's just contradiction.
Mr Vibrating : No it isn't.
Man : Yes it is.
Mr Vibrating : It is not.
Man : It is. You just contradicted me.
Mr Vibrating : No I didn't.
Man : Ooh, you did!
Mr Vibrating : No, no, no, no, no.
Man : You did, just then.
Mr Vibrating : No, nonsense!
Man : Oh, look this is futile.
Mr Vibrating ; No it isn't.
Man ; I came here for a good argument.
Mr Vibrating ; No you didn't, you came here for an argument.
Man : Well, an argument's not the same as contradiction.
Mr Vibrating : It can be.
Man : No it can't. An argument is a connected series of statements to establish a definite proposition.
Mr Vibrating : No it isn't.
Man : Yes it is. It isn't just contradiction.
Mr Vibrating : Look, if I argue with you, I must take up a contrary position.
Man :But it isn't just saying 'No it isn't'.
Mr Vibrating: Yes it is.
Man : No it isn't, Argument is an intellectual process ... contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.
Mr Vibrating: No it isn't.
Man : Yes it is.
Mr Vibrating : Not at all.
Man: Now look!
Mr Vibrating : (pressing the bell on his desk) That's it. Good morning.
Man : But I was just getting interested.
Mr Vibrating : Sorry the five minutes is up.
Man : That was never five minutes just now!
Mr Vibrating : I'm afraid it was.
Man : No it wasn't.
Mr Vibrating : I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more.
Man : What!?
Mr Vibrating : If you want me to go on arguing you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
Man : But that was never five minutes just now ... oh Come on! (Vibrating looks round as though man was not there) This is ridiculous.
Mr Vibrating : I'm very sorry, but I told you I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid.
Man : Oh. all right. (pays) There you are.
Mr Vibrating : Thank you.
Man : Well?.
Mr Vibrating: Well what?
Man: That was never five minutes just now.
Mr Vibrating : I told you I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!
Man : I've just paid.
Mr Vibrating: No you didn't.
Man : I did! I did! I did!
Mr Vibrating : No you didn't.
Man : Look I don't want to argue about that.
Mr Vibrating : Well I'm very sorry but you didn't pay.
Man : Aha! Well if I didn't pay, why are you arguing ... got you!
Mr Vibrating : No you haven't.
Man : Yes I have ... if you're arguing I must have paid.
Mr Vibrating : Not necessarily. I could be arguing in my spare time.
Man : I've had enough of this.
Mr Vibrating : No you haven't.
Man : Oh shut up! (he leaves and sees a door marked complaints; he goes in) I want to complain.

In my math class my lecturer played us this one to illustrate 'argument' in logic.

[lotek]

he's done it again...
I think this is intented to be some kind of insult, or is it praise? I am lost

If you don't know -- and i don't mean accept the possibility, i mean take the sheer obviousness of the thing as almost exaggerated -- if you don't know that Frank Herbert was a preacher, that his novels are but thin excuses for his lecturing about whatever topic he deemed important, well if you don't know that even SandChigger seems intelligent close to you.

hey well...

see ya buddy!

[Freakzilla]

Don't worry, he'll be back.

[SandChigger]

Kewl. He mentioned ME, SPECIFICALLY, in his valediction!

Oh, and

And, mrpork? FUCK you.

[Nekhrun]

Why was that thread locked? I missed all the fun. Damn it. All I wanted to communicate to him was that he should maybe try reading the books or stay away from them and all he comes back with is this.

[Freakzilla]

Why was that thread locked? I missed all the fun. Damn it. All I wanted to communicate to him was that he should maybe try reading the books or stay away from them and all he comes back with is this.

I didn't lock it.

[edit] That whole forum is locked [/edit]

[SandChigger]

Just as well.

Post the abuse here.

[merkin muffley]

Kewl. He mentioned ME, SPECIFICALLY, in his valediction!

Mission accomplished.

Post the abuse here.

Go ahead...

knock yourself off

[SandChigger]

knock yourself off

Well, sugar, I actually have someone who enjoys doing that for me, so it rarely occurs to me to "DIY" these days.

But you be sure to use some lotion now. If I remember correctly, chaffing down there can be a bitch.

[Nekhrun]

I sure hope he comes back.

[Mandy]

Another one bites the dust.