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Here's a follow-up to an earlier post of mine and now I'm finally adding some pics. It's just convenient right now since I'm in the process of moving.

First off my Dune books in hardcover and trade softcover:



Upper left is French edition with a peculiar non-Dune:ish cover illustration. It shows a dead astronaut in a beach landscape with palm trees and a heighliner looming overhead in the sky... Interestingly almost the same pic was used in the cult movie "Def-Con 4" a few years after this was printed (1982) which is about a few astronauts that return to a radioactive wasteland Earth after WWIII.


The orange one is 1976 Gollancz, the blue is the very first Chilton print but without dust jacket (anyone got a spare???), the one with DJ is 3rd print (thanks Kwisatz!), there's Dune Illustrated and the rest are Swedish editions.

Next Dune Messiah HCs: Putnam 2nd, Swedish and Spanish


Other Dune books, Putnam & Gollancz retails + Encyclopedia in HC/DJ:


Other Herbert books:


Black one is Jesus without DJ, Lazarus is signed by Frank, Whipping Star is Putnam with DJ (again my favorite cover) and Green Brain is NEL HC/DJ edition.

My pockets are:


The "Worlds Beyond Dune" is a collection of Pandora and Jorj McKie books. I'm waiting for a "Dune Trilogy" set still in its original plastic seal to arrive by mail..

Hmm, I didn't know you could get The Ascension Factor with that cover art in paperback. Took me ages to find one on Ebay in hardcover.

I bought mine from the local bookstore for just a couple of bucks.. I see lots of them out there for very low prices. There are bunch of hardcovers out there too for quite reasonable amounts. Btw, we shouldn't forget that Bill should get the most credit for that book since he was the one who actually wrote it.

My newest addition - the most complete primary source bibliography in English Now the hunt really begins

Kwisatz wrote:Now the hunt really begins

At last !

It's a fabulous Cicerone, isn't it ?
... but remember, it contains some errors and misattributions (especially with the cover art subfield).

See you soon at LLB

and misspellings but I'll search through them and point them to the author

Kwisatz wrote:My newest addition - the most complete primary source bibliography in English Now the hunt really begins

Nice addition, but that is not really a "complete" primary source, or even the "most complete." After a more thorough examination I'm confident that the Greenwood book is more complete as it lists many, many more printings of most of the books. Stephenson-Payne's bibliography is a good one for identifying a wide variety of the materials that are out there, but definitely not every single version of each that is available. I have also identified a LOT more secondary source material then PSP lists. Once I get my ass in gear I'll update my own "bibliography" with it.

Also, I spoke to PSP a few years ago and he told me that his (former?) partner, Crumm, may have done more work on that bibilography, and may have some sources that have not yet found their way to print. I always meant to follow up with Crumm, but kind of dropped the ball. Might be worth an e-mail to him now. I think Crumm's address is in the front cover of that pamphlet.

Kwisatz wrote:and misspellings but I'll search through them and point them to the author

I really should get back to archive activities myself. I've been ignoring it for too long.

I don't have Greenwood edition yet to compare. I also meant only sources in English and my opinion was based on what Phil told me few days ago
This email is cdrummbks (at) aol.com

Kwisatz wrote:I don't have Greenwood edition yet to compare. I also meant only sources in English and my opinion was based on what Phil told me few days ago
This email is cdrummbks (at) aol.com

Drumm! That's what is was, not Crumm. Thanks.

I think that there is a third one out there somewhere too, that I have not found yet; a third commercial, printed bibliography, that is.

Anyway, LLB is gonna blow them all away.

Omphalos wrote:

Anyway, LLB is gonna blow them all away.

Thanks buddy

The bibliographer needs to access the highest level that is available - ideally the primary level: i.e. the book itself. One must bear in mind, though, that primary sources are generally not 100% accurate. In some cases, the accuracy of a composite information can be higher than that of the individual primary and other sources! This is because comparing numerous sources often enables the resolution of spelling errors, name variations, dates and other details.

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PS: Kwisatz, I forgot the name of the guy who wrote the 1st bibliographic pamphlet of FH's works (1976).

As O'Reilly cited him:

Yenter, Charles C. "Notes for a Bibliography of Frank Herbert." Privately published. 1015 5. Steele, Tacoma, Washington 98405. Thorough listing of editions of Herbert's work; incomplete only by a bibliophile's standard.

I think it was from 1977 or 1978 cause of mentioning Dosadi Experiment.

Kwisatz wrote:As O'Reilly cited him:

Yenter, Charles C. "Notes for a Bibliography of Frank Herbert." Privately published. 1015 5. Steele, Tacoma, Washington 98405. Thorough listing of editions of Herbert's work; incomplete only by a bibliophile's standard.

I think it was from 1977 or 1978 cause of mentioning Dosadi Experiment.

yeah! it's him... « All of the standard sources have been checked through 1976 »

Askaris de Dar wrote:

Kwisatz wrote:As O'Reilly cited him:

Yenter, Charles C. "Notes for a Bibliography of Frank Herbert." Privately published. 1015 5. Steele, Tacoma, Washington 98405. Thorough listing of editions of Herbert's work; incomplete only by a bibliophile's standard.

I think it was from 1977 or 1978 cause of mentioning Dosadi Experiment.

yeah! it's him... « All of the standard sources have been checked through 1976 »

Yea, that's it. Now that I think about it, it was just velo-bound pages from a very detail orienteded SF fan in Washington State. I also get confused because later editions of the Greenwood book have partial attribution to Willard.

credits: Kwisatz

Complete or not, Kwisatz, congratulations on having overtaken another milestone!

Thanks, but congrats to Yevisk aka Rakis Hoard who bought it and scan it for me. I could send it all to you guys, just PM me with your emails.

Askaris de Dar wrote: It's just a reference, you know (for the moment). I found it, translated in italian :
Introduzione: Entra nel mondo di Dune (Discorso tenuto da Frank Herbert alla XXII Convention Mondiale di Fantascienza, Los Angeles 1964.)
(7 pages)

Another milestone today - I found Pacificon II Speech in AMRA Vol.2 #34

Enjoy!

Kwisatz wrote:Enjoy!

I did! Thank you.

HAH! Herbert read 200 books and pamflets about deserts and ecology ... KJA didn't even read ONE! when he "created" hellhole. Thanks you Kwisatz for this enjoyable read ... I remember I read it before, but wow! does this tell the story of a true writer. You can taste the quality when you read Frank's words.

Kwisatz wrote:

Askaris de Dar wrote: It's just a reference, you know (for the moment). I found it, translated in italian :
Introduzione: Entra nel mondo di Dune (Discorso tenuto da Frank Herbert alla XXII Convention Mondiale di Fantascienza, Los Angeles 1964.)
(7 pages)

Another milestone today - I found Pacificon II Speech in AMRA Vol.2 #34

Enjoy!

Fabulous Dude you are an amazing blessing to us.
Thank you for sharing this material with us.

You deserve a MAXI GIANT COOKIE

What a giant cookie, wow!

I searched through the bibliography in DoD but BH didn't mention this speech or I couldn't find it (unlikely)
Or it's the same as "How to live and Create in a Dune World"

WOW! I look forward to reading that later!

"...Dune is a sword-and-sorcery story."

How many times have I said Dune was Fantasy?

"If I don't tell a good story, even if I create a world, there's nothing novel about it."

Did you get that, Keith?

That was a good ending sentence. Tied together alot of his points.

Thanks, Kwisatz!