Re: First Republican Presidential Candidate for '12
Posted: 03 Jun 2011 00:04
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Atwater on the Southern Strategy
As a member of the Reagan administration in 1981, Atwater gave an anonymous interview to political scientist Alexander P. Lamis. Part of this interview was printed in Lamis' book The Two-Party South, then reprinted in Southern Politics in the 1990s with Atwater's name revealed. Bob Herbert reported on the interview in the 6 October 2005 edition of the New York Times. Atwater talked about the GOP's Southern Strategy and Ronald Reagan's version of it:
Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry S. Dent, Sr. and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now [the new Southern Strategy of Ronald Reagan] doesn’t have to do that. All you have to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he's campaigned on since 1964 and that's fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster.
Questioner: But the fact is, isn't it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?
Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it isgetting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."
It's a fucking shame. I loved it when that high schooler challenged Bachmann to a debate. Looks like she can target Palin as well.Robspierre wrote:Sarah Palin fucks up American history. This time it is Paul Revere.
Of all the people I've heard react to that add, that's not something I've heard yet.Freakzilla wrote:So, what was racist about it?
Even though I am about as far away from conservative as one can get, I think it's a shame what has happened to that party with all of the pandering to the religious right and the fearful. Hell, I'd even take a whole team of zombie Reagans at this point. He'd be run right out of the party if he was around today.trang wrote:I am an independent conservative. Who do I see even on the radar from any party? No one at this point.
Michele Bachmann Grabs GOP Presidential Debate Spotlight
Howard Kurtz Howard Kurtz – Tue Jun 14, 12:35 am ET
NEW YORK – The congresswoman used her bluntness and charm to overshadow the men at the GOP debate—announcing her presidential bid and passionately defending the Tea Party. Howard Kurtz on why she shouldn’t be underestimated.Plus: More Daily Beast contributors on the GOP debate
Michele Bachmann all but stole the show at the Republican presidential debate.
The only woman on the New Hampshire stage deftly utilized the CNN spotlight Monday night to announce that she filed her papers to officially run for president, setting off a flood of breaking-news alerts in the event’s opening moments. But she accomplished far more than that.
The Minnesota congresswoman got the first audience roar of the night, promising that Barack Obama would be a one-term president.
She offered a passionate and inclusive defense of the Tea Party, saying that unlike the distorted picture painted by the media, the movement includes “disaffected Democrats,” “independents,” “libertarians” and “people who have never been political a day in their lives.” That, she declares, “is why the left fears it so much.”
She even positioned herself as a truth-teller, saying she “fought against my own party” behind closed doors by opposing the Bush administration’s much-reviled TARP bailout plan.
Not bad for a rookie who kept smiling as she reeled off her best lines.
In fact, Bachmann equivocated only once, when she couldn’t choose between Elvis Presley and Johnny Cash. Go figure.
Bachmann is relatively new to the national stage, but as anyone who has watched her in action understands, she knows how to play this game.
Many people think of Bachmann and Sarah Palin as cut from the same cloth, but beyond their obvious similarities as outspoken conservative women, they are distinctly different. Bachmann, a decade older at 55, had a career as a tax lawyer and is well versed in the finer points of legislation. She is not only a third-term House member but spent a half-dozen years before that in the Minnesota Senate.
“I will not rest until Obamacare is repealed…It’s a promise, take it to the bank, cash the check.”
And as she reminded the audience at St. Anselm College several times, once in touting her pro-life stance, she has five children and is the “proud foster parent of 23 great children.â€
Bachmann is no stranger to Washington television studios; rather than denounce the lamestream media, she engages, and is well practiced in the art of the cable interview, even on such contentious forums as Hardball.
Bachmann also doesn’t have to explain, as Palin does, why she walked away from her biggest job in the middle of her term.
Like Palin, Bachmann generates headlines for saying flamboyant things, such as once suggesting that members of Congress be investigated for anti-American tendencies. But she did none of that Monday night.
Among the seven contenders, the focus was on Mitt Romney and Tim Pawlenty as the most likely nominees on the stage. Newt Gingrich seemed more of a sideshow because his campaign had just imploded, and Herman Cain seemed less of a novelty than during the first debate, carried on Fox. Bachmann was the fresh face.
She may take garden-variety conservative positions at times, but Bachmann sells them with crowd-pleasing language. She pivoted from a question about job-training programs to vow “the mother of all repeal bills” against liberal overspending, targeting the “job-killing” Environmental Protection Agency in particular.
And there was this: “I will not rest until Obamacare is repealed…It’s a promise, take it to the bank, cash the check.”
The congresswoman also positioned herself as a player, noting she introduced one of the first bills to invalidate Obama’s health-care law. She introduced another measure to kill the “over-the-top” Dodd-Frank banking regulation law. Of course, both laws still stand, but Bachmann, the only one on the stage currently employed, made herself seem like a player, not an observer. In opposing U.S. intervention in Libya—which puts her at odds with the GOP’s McCain wing—Bachmann said she sits on the House intelligence committee and still doesn’t know “who the rebel forces are.”
She was at her most passionate on abortion, defending the “sanctity of human life.” But her toughest moment came when a questioner asked how she would balance her opposition to gay marriage with her advocacy of states’ rights.
Bachmann ducked at first, saying she believes in the 10th Amendment and also believes that marriage is between a man and a woman. When pressed, she said that as president she would not campaign to overturn state laws she didn’t like. But she softened her hard-line image by noting that she was raised by a single mother after her parents’ divorce.
Bachmann’s advantage during the two-hour session is that as an unofficial candidate until now she’s had very little scrutiny. She hasn’t had to explain difficult votes or apparent contradictions between her rhetoric and her record. That will change before long.
The conventional wisdom is that as a social conservative who was born in the state, Bachmann could well win the Iowa caucuses—though she is likely to falter after that. But the enormous media attention she would attract in the process could make her a wild card, and her gender and sharp tongue virtually guarantee she will stand out in a sea of blandness.
We don’t yet know how Michele Bachmann will fare under the grinding pressure of a national campaign. But if her maiden debate was any indication, she shouldn’t be underestimated.
Howard Kurtz is The Daily Beast and Newsweek's Washington bureau chief, and writes the Spin Cycle blog. He also hosts CNN's weekly media program Reliable Sources on Sundays at 11 a.m. ET. The longtime media reporter and columnist for The Washington Post, Kurtz is the author of five books.
Herman Cain: GOP presidential candidate says he'd attack Iran if they strike at Israel
By Associated Press / July 19, 2011
Atlanta
Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain says he wouldn't hesitate to attack Iran if it attacks Israel first.
Cain told The Washington Times that if Israel is ever attacked first by Iran, he would "make it crystal clear (that) if you mess with Israel, you're messing with the United States of America."
Cain stressed that his policy would not be a "blank check" for Israeli military action. Cain is a former CEO of Godfather's Pizza who has also hosted a radio talk show in Atlanta.
He was interviewed by the newspaper after he met Monday with Israel's ambassador to U.S., Michael Oren.
Cain's spokesperson could not immediately be reached for comment Monday night.
How does this guy expect to win if he speaks plainly about what he will or will not do (in a given situation) if he becomes President? Others say what they will do, but it's more along the lines of "When I'm President, I'll let you eat all the candy you want, and you won't ever have to brush your teeth. I'll tuck you in at night and read you a bedtime story and tomorrow will be so awesome! Just you wait."Freakzilla wrote:Herman Cain: GOP presidential candidate says he'd attack Iran if they strike at Israel
By Associated Press / July 19, 2011
Atlanta
Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain says he wouldn't hesitate to attack Iran if it attacks Israel first.
Cain told The Washington Times that if Israel is ever attacked first by Iran, he would "make it crystal clear (that) if you mess with Israel, you're messing with the United States of America."
Cain stressed that his policy would not be a "blank check" for Israeli military action. Cain is a former CEO of Godfather's Pizza who has also hosted a radio talk show in Atlanta.
He was interviewed by the newspaper after he met Monday with Israel's ambassador to U.S., Michael Oren.
Cain's spokesperson could not immediately be reached for comment Monday night.![]()
Kinda like the same thing Obama and every other politician do?JustSomeGuy wrote:How does this guy expect to win if he speaks plainly about what he will or will not do (in a given situation) if he becomes President? Others say what they will do, but it's more along the lines of "When I'm President, I'll let you eat all the candy you want, and you won't ever have to brush your teeth. I'll tuck you in at night and read you a bedtime story and tomorrow will be so awesome! Just you wait."
Nekhrun wrote:Herman Cain sings I Must Tell Jesus.