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Posted: 10 Jan 2009 10:01
by Tleszer
SandChigger wrote:Hey, people ... I think I just thought of another reason why Sandworms is shit: remember, the worms supposedly "sensed" the HM attack coming and dived deep down to hibernate and wait out the attack and radiation afterwards.
This shows that the sandworms did in fact have some form of prescience, which one could have postulated because of Leto's "pearls of awareness;" by BH&KJA making this true, since it was never actually clear if FH=Taraza in this line of thought, it means that Taraza was right in wanting Rakis destroyed.

So, BH&KJA believe in a Duniverse where prescient sandworms exist and the Ultra Kwisatz Haderach is a human/machine hybrid that is not a cyborg but still human? If so, shouldn't there be prescient-vision "conflicts" between them or do the sandworm visions cancel each other out leaving only Duncan's ultra-visions?

Geez, they've apparently made things stupid convoluted simply by having the sandworms survive the attack on Rakis. Sounds about right. :lol:

On Sandworm Prescience

Posted: 10 Jan 2009 11:41
by Sole Man
THE WURM IS THE SPICE! THE SPICE IS THE WURM! (THE WURM IS THEIR BIGGEST SELLING POINT!)

Wait...Now it all makes sense! The worms are omniceint beings that control all happenings in the DUNE universe. They distorted the words of the Prequels/sequels, intentionally making them wrong so as to upstage BH/KJA!

(This is going to be thier next big "explanation")

Posted: 12 Jan 2009 19:31
by Schu
I was just reading the starting few chapters of children of dune. Apparently large bodies of water = bad, and water held in cellular bondage = acceptable.

So I guess the question is, why did a patch of damp sand stop worms from ravaging a community that they would have loved to decimate?

Posted: 13 Jan 2009 00:21
by SandChigger
I would assume that there would be more than 40 liters of water spread throughout the sand.

There would presumably be a larger amount of water evaporating into the air from dampened sand than from a human body, so it might be easier for the worm to detect the sand.

(Why are you obsessing over this? ;) )

Posted: 13 Jan 2009 01:43
by SandRider
Keeps his mind off me.

Posted: 13 Jan 2009 07:26
by SandChigger
There is that. :lol:

Posted: 13 Jan 2009 09:26
by Schu
Am I that transparent?

I like to muse about such things.

Like Sandrider....

(actually, in truth, I'm picking apart a lot of things in the duniverse currently especially in Children of Dune, which has always confused me the most)

Posted: 13 Jan 2009 09:54
by Freakzilla
Schu wrote:(actually, in truth, I'm picking apart a lot of things in the duniverse currently especially in Children of Dune, which has always confused me the most)
Please visit the reading group, I have summaries of each chapter. Please ask any questions that arrise.

:D

Posted: 13 Jan 2009 09:56
by Freakzilla
Schu wrote:I was just reading the starting few chapters of children of dune. Apparently large bodies of water = bad, and water held in cellular bondage = acceptable.
True, the safest place to store your water is in your body.
So I guess the question is, why did a patch of damp sand stop worms from ravaging a community that they would have loved to decimate?
The worms don't know how much or how little water is there, they just sense poisonous water.

Posted: 13 Jan 2009 10:06
by Schu
I guess that makes sense.

And yes, I most certainly do intend to do that, in fact I intend to go through all 6 in order and extensively post to the chapter summaries, I've meant to do that since I saw them. Currently I'm skimming the 6 before going through them thoroughly, to reacquaint myself with everything, especially CoD which, like I've said, has always confused me.

Posted: 13 Jan 2009 10:10
by Freakzilla
Schu wrote:I guess that makes sense.

And yes, I most certainly do intend to do that, in fact I intend to go through all 6 in order and extensively post to the chapter summaries, I've meant to do that since I saw them. Currently I'm skimming the 6 before going through them thoroughly, to reacquaint myself with everything, especially CoD which, like I've said, has always confused me.
Cool! Don't worry, we'll straighten you out! :wink:

Posted: 13 Jan 2009 10:44
by Schu
Freakzilla wrote:
Schu wrote:I guess that makes sense.

And yes, I most certainly do intend to do that, in fact I intend to go through all 6 in order and extensively post to the chapter summaries, I've meant to do that since I saw them. Currently I'm skimming the 6 before going through them thoroughly, to reacquaint myself with everything, especially CoD which, like I've said, has always confused me.
Cool! Don't worry, we'll straighten you out! :wink:
Well, I was thinking less "straightening myself out" as "finding strange little facts and quotes"

Posted: 24 Jan 2009 08:59
by loremaster
it could just be that sandworms were supersensitive to gradients of osmotic pressure (pure water would diffuse (on balance) into the cells and kill them). Either that, or:

Sandworms arent made of cells at all and are therefore alien

Sandworms cant (must?) ingest water to maintain cells.