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Obama's Omnibus bill has 8,000 earmarks totaling $5.5 billion:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090306/ap_ ... s_spending
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090306/ap_ ... s_spending
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YAHOO NEWS FTW!Freakzilla wrote:Obama's Omnibus bill has 8,000 earmarks totaling $5.5 billion:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090306/ap_ ... s_spending
borrow and spend.
I think that this is what the USA needs to get back on its feet. I think that any failure to act would lead to ruin. So what do you do, sit back and let Rome burn or try to throw everything into fixing the flawed system of capitalism. It is a flawed system.
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It's not like anyone didn't present alternatives. However Congress' own Budget Commitee said the stimulus plan would be more harmfull in the long run than doing nothing.SwordMaster wrote:YAHOO NEWS FTW!Freakzilla wrote:Obama's Omnibus bill has 8,000 earmarks totaling $5.5 billion:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090306/ap_ ... s_spending
borrow and spend.
I think that this is what the USA needs to get back on its feet. I think that any failure to act would lead to ruin. So what do you do, sit back and let Rome burn or try to throw everything into fixing the flawed system of capitalism. It is a flawed system.
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We're in way too deep to spend our way out of this.
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1% of a trillion dollars in nothing to sneeze at. Wasn't his campaign promise to eliminate earmarks? He's a liar, just like every other politician. Regardless, I think $1 is too much. To me it's bribery, plain and simple.Crysknife wrote:I hope everyone realizes that the earmarks are less than one percent of the bill?
McCain has been reduced to arguing over 1%!
Many of these earmarks are for needed projects.
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Most of those ear marks are from Republican house and senate members. Some are waste some are not, depending on your perspective. But 1% is not really even relevant. If I hear one more reference to that shitty book that was more or less considered complete drivel by the entire academic community as some kind of "inspiration" Im going to bleed from my eye balls.Freakzilla wrote:1% of a trillion dollars in nothing to sneeze at. Wasn't his campaign promise to eliminate earmarks? He's a liar, just like every other politician. Regardless, I think $1 is too much. To me it's bribery, plain and simple.Crysknife wrote:I hope everyone realizes that the earmarks are less than one percent of the bill?
McCain has been reduced to arguing over 1%!
Many of these earmarks are for needed projects.
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
What a joke. This book is complete garbage, the hero is a selfish asshole. She was a shit author who wrote nothing but garbage. Going Galt?
How about this ass hole with his web site http://www.goingjohngalt.org
This guy is starting a alleged movement about "Loving this country enough to leave it / Loving this country enough to save it" Basically he is saying that people who are doing well should be more lazy and less productive as a form of rebelling to show the govt. they dont want to help the poor, less fortunate and as the "grate" Ayn Rand wrote "The moochers who will claim your product with tears"
So he is the founder of this movement, really funny thing, he has an ad on his site about the fact he is currently looking for work. Colbert FTW!
The neo-cons need a new game plan. When your best talent is a 14yr old boy who had a dream about the party, Stephen Baldwin and Rush Dickbah, you have a serious leadership issue.
Glen Beck FTW!
Honestly, Meghan McCain is the best hope for that party, at least she is reasonable, and not filled with hate.
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Whoa...his promise was to reform earmarks, not eliminate them. McCain was the one threatening to eliminate all earmarks.Freakzilla wrote:1% of a trillion dollars in nothing to sneeze at. Wasn't his campaign promise to eliminate earmarks? He's a liar, just like every other politician. Regardless, I think $1 is too much. To me it's bribery, plain and simple.Crysknife wrote:I hope everyone realizes that the earmarks are less than one percent of the bill?
McCain has been reduced to arguing over 1%!
Many of these earmarks are for needed projects.
Obama has fulfilled his promise. Earmarks are not all bad. Those people were elected to help their districts. They have to get that money somehow....so call them what you want, they are necessary.
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If these earmarks are so great, why can't they pass in a bill of their own?Crysknife wrote:Whoa...his promise was to reform earmarks, not eliminate them. McCain was the one threatening to eliminate all earmarks.Freakzilla wrote:1% of a trillion dollars in nothing to sneeze at. Wasn't his campaign promise to eliminate earmarks? He's a liar, just like every other politician. Regardless, I think $1 is too much. To me it's bribery, plain and simple.Crysknife wrote:I hope everyone realizes that the earmarks are less than one percent of the bill?
McCain has been reduced to arguing over 1%!
Many of these earmarks are for needed projects.
Obama has fulfilled his promise. Earmarks are not all bad. Those people were elected to help their districts. They have to get that money somehow....so call them what you want, they are necessary.
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ouch. Well I find her tolerable, at least she has the balls to stand up to the likes of Coulter and her breed of hate.Crysknife wrote:I watched her on Rachel Maddow last night and she is an airhead. I honestly think she hasn't a clue what the Republican party is about.Honestly, Meghan McCain is the best hope for that party, at least she is reasonable, and not filled with hate.
I dont think she is an airhead at all, and I enjoy her blog.
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Well, I do give her props for the Coulter deal, but that was just in response to Coulter's badmouthing McCain. I think it has more to do with feelings rather than Coulter's politics.SwordMaster wrote:ouch. Well I find her tolerable, at least she has the balls to stand up to the likes of Coulter and her breed of hate.Crysknife wrote:I watched her on Rachel Maddow last night and she is an airhead. I honestly think she hasn't a clue what the Republican party is about.Honestly, Meghan McCain is the best hope for that party, at least she is reasonable, and not filled with hate.
I dont think she is an airhead at all, and I enjoy her blog.
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The earmarks are bad, but at 1% the bill as a whole is worth the minor ill of the earmarks.Freakzilla wrote:If these earmarks are so great, why can't they pass in a bill of their own?Crysknife wrote:Whoa...his promise was to reform earmarks, not eliminate them. McCain was the one threatening to eliminate all earmarks.Freakzilla wrote:1% of a trillion dollars in nothing to sneeze at. Wasn't his campaign promise to eliminate earmarks? He's a liar, just like every other politician. Regardless, I think $1 is too much. To me it's bribery, plain and simple.Crysknife wrote:I hope everyone realizes that the earmarks are less than one percent of the bill?
McCain has been reduced to arguing over 1%!
Many of these earmarks are for needed projects.
Obama has fulfilled his promise. Earmarks are not all bad. Those people were elected to help their districts. They have to get that money somehow....so call them what you want, they are necessary.
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so....basically your admitting that Ann Coulter is a man and that Sarah Palin would have been the first She-Male VP?Freakzilla wrote:All republican women have balls the size of church bells.
no but seriously...
Do you see the current opposition to Obama's stimulus package by republicans as partisan posturing or as disagreement to his ideas? Do you think the party is actively setting Obama up to fail, regardless of the fact that most of this stimulus is the hang-over of Bush's plan.
How about that Obama inherited this problem (oh no the I-word) and that much of Bush's deregulation ejaculations are the reason financial systems didn't set off near-enough early warnings.
Or did Liberal CEO's destroy the market?
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I think those are all factors. I've said before, this is just a power grab by the liberals. People will eventually realize that Obama is not the messiah and just another slick politician. His spending bills have nothing to do with the economy. We'll sink deeper into depression and they'll crucify him.Ampoliros wrote:so....basically your admitting that Ann Coulter is a man and that Sarah Palin would have been the first She-Male VP?Freakzilla wrote:All republican women have balls the size of church bells.
no but seriously...
Do you see the current opposition to Obama's stimulus package by republicans as partisan posturing or as disagreement to his ideas? Do you think the party is actively setting Obama up to fail, regardless of the fact that most of this stimulus is the hang-over of Bush's plan.
How about that Obama inherited this problem (oh no the I-word) and that much of Bush's deregulation ejaculations are the reason financial systems didn't set off near-enough early warnings.
Or did Liberal CEO's destroy the market?
Of course, the republicans are posturing, but Obama's bold promises have given them the room to do that.
Of course, the democrats will still blame Bush.
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I blame the retarded costs of the Iraq war, take all that wasted money, invest in jobs and infustructure and things would not be this bad, deregulation added to the already massive corperate greed and coruption.
I think the spending bill will mitigate the massive job loss and create more new jobs, but its just a bridge.
I think the spending bill will mitigate the massive job loss and create more new jobs, but its just a bridge.
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