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No Farscape (yeah, I know, get over it you bouncy yellotwat), the Dwarf only rated 24 and a bunch of horror/fantasy shite that had no right, no right I tell you being there. But apart from that a great read if you've the time to load the 6 pages.

What...no Time Tunnel ?! Lost in Space ?!

Seriously...Buffy ?!

Sometimes I wonder who makes those lists and what were they smoking when the did?

I know I didn't watch it that much, but what in the world about Buffy could classify it as Science-Fiction much less grant it a postion in the top 5? Vampire, withches, and werewolves cry FANTASY to me.

Fuck Wizard Entertainment. They were so successful as a magazine publisher that they're producing three fewer magazines than they were two years ago. And Wizard itself has become a big joke.

TheDukester wrote:Fuck Wizard Entertainment. They were so successful as a magazine publisher that they're producing three fewer magazines than they were two years ago. And Wizard itself has become a big joke.

QFT

Eyes High wrote:Sometimes I wonder who makes those lists and what were they smoking when the did?

I know I didn't watch it that much, but what in the world about Buffy could classify it as Science-Fiction much less grant it a postion in the top 5? Vampire, withches, and werewolves cry FANTASY to me.

Indeed, half of the stuff in the list is not sci-fi. Much as I like Buffy, it is not sci-fi.

I'm going to follow the link and read it, but if I see "Heroes" listed anywhere on their feature, I'm going to scream bloody murder

EDIT: Okay, Wizard avoided the landmine that is Heroes, but the list leaves much to be desired. What the hell is Supernatural even doing on a top 25 list? Star Trek TOS and X-Files rating below Lost? Buffy trumping BSG, as a "sci-fi" show? This list is proper fucked

GamePlayer wrote:I'm going to follow the link and read it, but if I see "Heroes" listed anywhere on their feature, I'm going to scream bloody murder

EDIT: Okay, Wizard avoided the landmine that is Heroes, but the list leaves much to be desired. What the hell is Supernatural even doing on a top 25 list? Star Trek TOS and X-Files rating below Lost? Buffy trumping BSG, as a "sci-fi" show? This list is proper fucked

Yeah, it looks as if it was made by Sloey or something...

They're fucking clueless as to what sci-fi even is. 'effin comic book morons.

Rakis wrote:Yeah, it looks as if it was made by Sloey or something...

Speaking of Sloey, whenever I see a DVD for Quantum of Solace I cannot help but think Quandry of Sloeys.

Although I do like some of the shows on the list, it definitely did not seem like a Top 25 list.

I disagree with the list, Wizard Magazine does not know what Science-Fiction is, a writing on the future development of mankind, with the impact of technology and new developments and how these can create an Utopia or a distopia. (my definition, feel free to answer with yours but do not flame me nor...whatever) Buffy the vampire slayer? They should have included I dream of Genie then! (and Dallas ) And if they included Buffy what about Forever Knight? The best vampires tv series ever (a copy of the universe created by Anne Rice set in current day, 1996, Toronto)

cmsahe wrote:I disagree with the list, Wizard Magazine does not know what Science-Fiction is, a writing on the future development of mankind, with the impact of technology and new developments and how these can create an Utopia or a distopia. (my definition, feel free to answer with yours but do not flame me nor...whatever) Buffy the vampire slayer? They should have included I dream of Genie then! (and Dallas ) And if they included Buffy what about Forever Knight? The best vampires tv series ever (a copy of the universe created by Anne Rice set in current day, 1996, Toronto)

Oh fucking hell, WTF?!?! Dr. Who?!?! Must be from a Brit rag. That right there invalidates this list. Buffy being on it is a pretty big stretch. BSG and X-Files in the top 2, EASY, flip flop them however you want. And ST:TNG is not a top 10. This list sucks ass.

Ahem: soiled ass. That tastes of dirt.

Spicelon wrote:Oh fucking hell, WTF?!?! Dr. Who?!?! Must be from a Brit rag. That right there invalidates this list. Buffy being on it is a pretty big stretch. BSG and X-Files in the top 2, EASY, flip flop them however you want. And ST:TNG is not a top 10. This list sucks ass.

C'mom! Doctor Who is the best science fiction ever, IMO, they are not including it only, because of its latest incarnation (#10 David Tennant) but because of the legacy and myth created during the golden years of Tom Baker, Jon Pertwee, Patrick Troughton & William Hartnell.

Doctor Who does not translate well for many, many North Americans. Never has; never will. There seems to be a certain ... British-ness ... to it that renders it mostly a bore once it travels across the ocean.

cmsahe wrote:

Spicelon wrote:Oh fucking hell, WTF?!?! Dr. Who?!?! Must be from a Brit rag. That right there invalidates this list. Buffy being on it is a pretty big stretch. BSG and X-Files in the top 2, EASY, flip flop them however you want. And ST:TNG is not a top 10. This list sucks ass.

C'mom! Doctor Who is the best science fiction ever, IMO, they are not including it only, because of its latest incarnation (#10 David Tennant) but because of the legacy and myth created during the golden years of Tom Baker, Jon Pertwee, Patrick Troughton & William Hartnell.

The older incarnation was even worse!! ST:TOS makes Dr. Who look like a Saturday morning cartoon. Puh-lease.

If a Yankee made this list, it'd probably crack the top 20, but that's about it.

TheDukester wrote:Doctor Who does not translate well for many, many North Americans. Never has; never will. There seems to be a certain ... British-ness ... to it that renders it mostly a bore once it travels across the ocean.

All of us, in the rest of the World have endured the american culture for decades now, it's always welcomed to have the opportunity to watch tv from another country, besides I love the british accent and the britishness of their tv series. BBC is a synonym for quality. (Also, australian children's television has become popular here in Mexico)

Endured? Oh, give me a fucking break.

As for Dr. Who, I always rather liked it, watched it on PBS.

Of course, I loved Monthy Python and Dave Allen, sometimes giggled at Benny Hill, have always been rather a bit of an Anglophile, so grain of salt time.

I love me some non-American TV (i.e. Brit TV). Monty Python is brilliant. Fawlty Towers even better. Planet Earth. I Claudius. Absolutely Fabulous. Kids in the Hall (a nod to our Canadian mates). The Office. But Dr. Who? No sir, no thanks.

yeah, I wouldn't say Dr. Who sucks soiled ass because of it's Britishness,
it's mainly a fooking stoopid premise, weak writing, bad acting, and altho
I'm sure the new ones have better FX, the old ones with dwarves in furry
alien costumes stumbling around a tiny sound stage was more Benny Hill Funny
than serious TV sci-fi w/ a message ....

and the phone booth was kinda neat, 40 years ago ....
now it seems kinda Retardis ....

Well to each his own. I admit I like Dr. Who a bit. Even though I don't watch it as much as I use to. But I also liked other 'British' shows, i.e. Benny Hill, Monty Python, Are You Being Served?, and so forth.

The man thing I have against the list was not even the fact that some of the shows listed I had never even heard of, but they had shows on there that was not (IMO) anywhere close to be in the Sci-Fi genre.

I know there are many people have begun to lump Sci-Fi and Fantasy together, but not me. Even though I enjoy both and there are books out there that combine the two very well, they are (to me at least) two seperate catagories. Why include a fantasy show on a sci-fi list?

Eyes High wrote:I know there are many people have begun to lump Sci-Fi and Fantasy together

Yep. And there's a major source of the problem.

On the self-promo commercials they show on SciFi Channel Japan, they explicitly mention fantasy as part of their subject area, so it's not just a problem in North America.


(Now ... do we want to hear more about this "man thing" you have? )

I have got to proof-read better.


it should have read... "The main thing...."

LOL But that was a good catch chig.