The Book of Mars
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The Book of Mars
The Book of Mars edited by Willis E McNelly and introduction by Isaac Asimov
1971 Doubleday and 1976 Orbit
1976 Orbit Edition
pgs 273-291
Carthage by Frank Herbert
Short stories and exerpts about Mars ranging from Bradbury to Lester Del Rey including even McNelly.
The exerpt from A Princess of Mars was very interesting!
One of the sources for the Fremen?
1971 Doubleday and 1976 Orbit
1976 Orbit Edition
pgs 273-291
Carthage by Frank Herbert
Short stories and exerpts about Mars ranging from Bradbury to Lester Del Rey including even McNelly.
The exerpt from A Princess of Mars was very interesting!
One of the sources for the Fremen?
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Absolutely the Tharks were a source of inspiration for the Fremen. A tough, warrior race that chose their leaders by attrition and lived in natural environments despite their access to high technology.
But I think you are actually talking about a book called Mars, We Love You, edited by McNelly and Jane Hipolito? That was published in '71, involves McNelly, published that poem and had an introduction by Asimov.
But I think you are actually talking about a book called Mars, We Love You, edited by McNelly and Jane Hipolito? That was published in '71, involves McNelly, published that poem and had an introduction by Asimov.
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The 1971 edition was titled Mars, We Love You, but the 1976 edition apparently was retitled The Book of Mars (with the previously titled listed under the copyright and different publisher). I don't have the 1971 edition so don't know if they added anything. Nice book.Omphalos wrote:Absolutely the Tharks were a source of inspiration for the Fremen. A tough, warrior race that chose their leaders by attrition and lived in natural environments despite their access to high technology.
But I think you are actually talking about a book called Mars, We Love You, edited by McNelly and Jane Hipolito? That was published in '71, involves McNelly, published that poem and had an introduction by Asimov.
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Might be the same book. ISFbd has no separate listing for The Book of Mars, and Hypollito has no separate entry save for Mara We Love You
http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?ANCL00214
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The Book of Mars
Tales of Mars, Men and Martians
Edited by
Jane Hipolito and Willis E McNelly
With Introduction by Issac Asimov
An Orbit Book
First Published in the United States in 1971 by Doubleday & Company Inc under the title MARS, WE LOVE YOU
First Orbit Edition 1976
published by Futura Publications Limited
Copyright C Jane Hipolito and Willis E McNelly 1971
Copyright C Doubleday & Company, Inc 1971
ISBN 0-8600-7893-0
Printed in Great Britain by Richard Clay (The Chaucer Press) Ltd,
Bungay, Suffolk
Futura Publications Limited
Warner Road, London SE5
Tales of Mars, Men and Martians
Edited by
Jane Hipolito and Willis E McNelly
With Introduction by Issac Asimov
An Orbit Book
First Published in the United States in 1971 by Doubleday & Company Inc under the title MARS, WE LOVE YOU
First Orbit Edition 1976
published by Futura Publications Limited
Copyright C Jane Hipolito and Willis E McNelly 1971
Copyright C Doubleday & Company, Inc 1971
ISBN 0-8600-7893-0
Printed in Great Britain by Richard Clay (The Chaucer Press) Ltd,
Bungay, Suffolk
Futura Publications Limited
Warner Road, London SE5
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Foreword
Introduction
Report on Canali
Mars as the Abode of Life
War of the Worlds
A Princess of Mars
A Martian Odyssey
The Embassy
Dark Mission
Lost Art
The Cave
Expedition
Loophole
Catch that Martian
Omnilingual
The Lost City of Mars
One Step from Earth
Carthage: Reflections of a Martian by Frank Herbert
Soft Landing
Earthbound
In Lonely Lands
World of the Wars
Exploration
Double Star
Linguistic Relativity in Middle High Martian
Introduction
Report on Canali
Mars as the Abode of Life
War of the Worlds
A Princess of Mars
A Martian Odyssey
The Embassy
Dark Mission
Lost Art
The Cave
Expedition
Loophole
Catch that Martian
Omnilingual
The Lost City of Mars
One Step from Earth
Carthage: Reflections of a Martian by Frank Herbert
Soft Landing
Earthbound
In Lonely Lands
World of the Wars
Exploration
Double Star
Linguistic Relativity in Middle High Martian
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I was listening to a radio version of The Embassy at work the other day.
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I just glanced through the last piece in this collection titled, "Linguistic Relativity in Middle High Martian" by McNelly.
The main topic was the word grok introduced by Heinlein in Stranger in a Strange Land 1961 ( Dune 1965)
"Grok means life, as a logical extension of it's meaning to drink...the water ceremony is the sole sacrament: "share water, drink deep, never thirst."
"Heinlein carries the religious message even further by advancing the thoroughly Martian concept of ritual cannibalism. When a Martian groks death, he "discorporates," and the surviving water brothers eat the remains..."
The main topic was the word grok introduced by Heinlein in Stranger in a Strange Land 1961 ( Dune 1965)
"Grok means life, as a logical extension of it's meaning to drink...the water ceremony is the sole sacrament: "share water, drink deep, never thirst."
"Heinlein carries the religious message even further by advancing the thoroughly Martian concept of ritual cannibalism. When a Martian groks death, he "discorporates," and the surviving water brothers eat the remains..."
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