The Winds of Dune: When they blow, they also suck!

[Omphalos]

Bronso sure plays a mean pinball.

[SandChigger]

I'm shtarting to get Bronso und Brüno mixed upp in mine headt. Do you know what that's like?

[Omphalos]

I was thinking about seeing that movie. Then I remembered I saw it when it was called Zoolander.

[Mr. Teg]

Haha...

The application of a chemical and reading of thoughts is directly from Thekja's book titled Blindfold.
(Don't forget this was the book Ole'Prune Dude on dumbnovels said was one of the deciding factors in choosing Thekja to work with Brian.)

[SandChigger]

So basically he's recycling his own, old bullshit into McDune now. Great.

How was it supposed to work in that book?

A chemical solution that supposedly increased individuals' (natural?) psychic abilities would make more or at least some sort of sense (hey, we're talkin' Duniverse here, where the right genetics and dried sandtrout poop makes you see the future! ), but the idiot had to throw in "nerve induction" to make it "Duney". (I'm assuming he doesn't mention nerve induction in his own book. Does he?)

"Pain by nerve induction" is of course how Mohiam tells Paul the box used in the gom jabbar test works. In short, it's something that requires a device of some sort to effect. Unless we're talking nanotech (which isn't "chemical") that creates the required circuitry and an antenna for transmission and reception within the person's skull, there's no "device" that could cause "nerve induction" and it's all just so much mumbo-jumbo KJA bullshit.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

[Freakzilla]

I am pretty confident the suspensors weren't described as silent themselves, but in instances where, say, Leto II is sitting on his royal cart with the suspensors down instead of wheels, and the room being described as deathly quiet while he would council with Moneo or Duncan.

I'm not 100%, but I just did a read through of God Emperor... and I definitely feel like the suspensors didn't make any noise.

I think KJA has been watching too many movies lately. Or, maybe he's simply mixed up the universes in all 14 books he dictates a year.

Suspensors were also used for glowglobes, nothing worse than a noisy lamp.

[SandChigger]

But, but...

GODS BELOW! HOW CAN ANYONE THINK WITH ALL THIS GLOWGLOBE RACKET?!

[Redstar]

I had a dream that Chig called me an Asshat. In this very thread. I was upset.

[SandChigger]

You're an Asshat.


OH MY GAWD! SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY! RIGHT HERE IN THIS THREAD!!!

[Redstar]

You're an Asshat.


OH MY GAWD! SELF-FULFILLING PROPHECY! RIGHT HERE IN THIS THREAD!!!

No, no. You took one of my posts where I attempted to offer something meaningful to the conversation at hand, and you called me pompous and ignorant, then called me an asshat.

[SandChigger]

OK, phew. I KNOW that didn't happen!

At least not in this thread.

[Ampoliros]

Yes, you called?

WTF is up with the "Tommy" reference. Like anyone besides RM would even know who the fuck "The Who" were 20,000 years in the future.

Ahem. OK, I apologize, I am really sorry, but I couldn't help myself. It just ... screamed for something inane like that. Here's what it really says:

Bronso. Can you hear me? She saw the prisoner's unmistakable reaction, as his head jerked in surprise and he looked around.

But really, when you think about it, with the stickers on the luggage and Rheinvar dressed in his white suit and top hat (covered in ice diamonds) and all the other late-20th-century sensibilities, would KJA injecting a Tommy reference really seem that impossible?

I would have been surprised that KJA knew wtf Tommy was.

then again:

"Cartman, you can't start a Christian Rock Band, you don't know anything about Christianity."
"I know enough to know how to exploit it."

[Mr. Teg]

So basically he's recycling his own, old bullshit into McDune now. Great.

How was it supposed to work in that book?

(I'm assuming he doesn't mention nerve induction in his own book. Does he?)

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

No, the characters pop a drug called veritas which allows normal people to read your thoughts for a few seconds...

The main villain uses the drug so he can feel what it feels like to be fucked by himself when he is with his concubine. Otherwords, he gets off feeling his own throbbing sensations, etc.

Do you "sense" a pattern in his novels?

("You're not gonna get weird on me are you Mr. Erasmus?" -Gilbertus)

[Ampoliros]

which is basically the whole plot behind Strange Days...

So basically KJA's only originality is in stealing everything he's ever written from someone else.

[SandChigger]

Well, in Strange Days they had to wear those funny headsets, right?

KJA DID simplify things by making it a pill.

(Better living through chemicals! )

[SandRider]

can't believe I just wasted a half hour wading thru this bullshit.

fuck you, chig.

[SandChigger]

TEN PAGES AND COUNTING!!!

OK, who's ready for what I currently believe is THE WORST McDUNE EPIGRAPH EVUH?!

Brace yourselves! This is for the "chapter" where Stilgar "needs the desert" and visits Tabr but finds it too changed. When he dismounts from the worm he was riding and releases it, it stops and hangs over him like it can somehow sense him, and he wonders if the stories about Muad'Dib having become one with worms are true....

Anyway, the epigraph for that ripping bit of lit is...

Subakh ul-kuhar, Muad'Dib! Are you well? Are you out there?
—Fremen Chant to Wind and Sand









Gawd ... isn't that just SHIT?

[GamePlayer]

You know those awful moments in really bad movies where the script was so obviously written to elicit a powerful emotion from the audience but fails so completely in execution that the scene falls flatter than your door mat and the audience groans in a collective cry of incontinence? The Razzies salute you, Mr. Anderson

[SandChigger]

and the audience groans in a collective cry of incontinence?

My gawd, man, you're on a roll today, aren't you?!

[Robspierre]

Ok I've shat out better material after a day of bad mexican food than this shit here. This is Michael fucking Bay level shit where everything is the same fucking thing over and over everyone is a stereotype all the moments are dramatic and is designed to give 12 year old little boys hards ons. Jesus Fucking Christ!

Rob

[trang]

The Epigraphs fails on all levels for sure, complete and uter shit.

As for Strange Days (1995).. those were recordings of peoples experiences.. The headset thing was just the conduit to the persons brain to replay and relive.

Excerpt from IMDB description:

Set in the year 1999 during the last days of the old millenium, the movie tells the story of Lenny Nero, an ex-cop who now deals with data-discs containing recorded memories and emotions. One day he receives a disc which contains the memories of a murderer killing a prostitute. Lenny investigates and is pulled deeper and deeper in a whirl of blackmail, murder and rape. Will he survive and solve the case?

Lenny Nero deals in dreams. Formerly an LAPD vice cop, he now deals in illegal 'squid' recordings - recordings made directly from the cerebral cortex of the participant, which allow the viewer to feel and experience everything the participant experiences as if they were there


Strange Days was a mild rip off of a film called Brainstorm (1983) with Natlie Wood and Christopher Walken, technology wise. IMDB Excerpt:

Brilliant researchers Lillian Reynolds and Michael Brace have developed a system of recording and playing back actual experiences of people. Once the capability of tapping into "higher brain functions" is added in, and you can literally jump into someone else's head and play back recordings of what he or she was thinking, feeling, seeing, etc., at the time of the recording, the applications for the project quickly spiral out of control. While Michael Brace uses the system to become close again to Karen Brace, his estranged wife who also works on the project, others start abusing it for intense sexual experiences and other logical but morally questionable purposes.


By the way, Know these arent really related to the topic, but talking about two mildly entertaining films over KJA's stupid shit.. helps the conversation along a little anyway.

I dont think KJA is even smart enough to come up with this on his own. Whats the conduit for the connection thru mid air? Phermones? I ask because it says its a chemical reaction. Wouldnt it just been simpler to say she had Telepathy?

Where are you getting these from chig? a Advance Reader Copy? Just curious.

[SandChigger]

Well, there's this rumor making the rounds that I'm making it all up.

But me, I never put much stock in such rumors myself.


I really liked both Strange Days and Brainstorm. (Didn't Wood prove she wasn't a witch during the filming of the latter or soon after its release?) Of course, it's been a while since I've re-watched either.

With the "communication by nerve induction", I figure it's supposed to be something like "artificial/enchanceted telepathy". I'm sure in Kevin's mind it all makes Perfect Sense™.

Ooh!

[GamePlayer]

and the audience groans in a collective cry of incontinence?

My gawd, man, you're on a roll today, aren't you?!

LOL! I think the rest of you are just drinking too much

[Hunchback Jack]

(Didn't Wood prove she wasn't a witch during the filming of the latter or soon after its release?)

During. But they were able to complete the film with the existing material by changing the story a bit, I think.

I saw it in the theaters when it originally came out. Maybe once since then, but it was a long time ago.

HBJ

[Freakzilla]

and the audience groans in a collective cry of incontinence?

My gawd, man, you're on a roll today, aren't you?!

LOL! I think the rest of you are just drinking too much

No, that's gold.