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Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 18 Aug 2009 17:58
by semuta
smugetsu wrote: Dude...seriously? Even if that did happen...don't you think that's way too personal to just throw out there on the internet? Rape is a terrible thing that scars its victims for life; not funny to joke about.
Im not joking.
I live in south wales uk, half the people I know have been raped as kids and adults, some of the regularly. why do you think im a counselor?

do you think having cctv everywhere helps? No it doesnt
do you think having armed police on our streets helps? No it doesnt
do you think a social taboo about even discussing this subject helps? No it doesnt

the only people who have helped me personally in this issue also organise beating the crap out of ethnic groups on a regular basis. I am involved with trying to dissuade racism and persuade aggressors to target the violence where it is better suited. I don't expect they care much who they are kneecapping after all, they just want to kneecap people.
We live in a sick and twisted world.
What sort of a counselor would do this?
Is there a thread in this forum to discuss morality & ethics or can we continue the topic here? Considering that the thread title could be interpreted to refer to the monitoring of all our activities eg; taped conversations etc.

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 18 Aug 2009 18:24
by SandRider
anybody else wanna disagree that this person is a fucking nut-bag ?

anybody ?

anybody ?

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 18 Aug 2009 18:24
by smugetsu
semuta wrote:do you think having cctv everywhere helps? No it doesnt
do you think having armed police on our streets helps? No it doesnt
do you think a social taboo about even discussing this subject helps? No it doesnt
I don't have a problem with discussing the topic, I was merely suggesting that maybe this place isn't the best place for it. I know we sometimes get serious about issues and all that, but overall I feel this place is mostly light-hearted. And as you said, the thread is about tape transfers...

And are you saying that things would either stay the same or improve without armed police? IIRC, a town in Canada had a brief brush with anarchy several years/decades ago...and I can tell ya how that went for them.

Done driving this poor thread into a ditch at 90mph...if you'd like to discuss it further you can start a topic, assuming that's OK with the mods.

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 18 Aug 2009 18:42
by Freakzilla
No topics are prohibited, let's just try to keep it somewhat civil and non-pornographic.

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 18 Aug 2009 18:51
by semuta
you should look into the Zapatista. too busy to add a wiki link myself this moment. they are awesome! it depends if you use the word anarchy to mean 'chaos' which it does not but is often used to mean, or if you mean the original intended definition, that is a society that doesn't have police because it doesn't need them; in practise that it is either a society based on mutual respect and love (not like this sietch then) or because everybody is in a mexican stand off and nobody is able to move aggressively toward another person without damaging themselves.
The Zapatista will kill only people who start telling them how to live their lives or taking the community land for personal gain. Most people in zapatista protected land are peaceful. Who are the zapatista? we all are. well, those of us with guns.

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 18 Aug 2009 22:58
by SandRider
great.

loves mexican drug terrorists & has guns ....

anybody wanna argue he's not a dangerous nut-bag ?

anybody ?

anybody ?

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 18 Aug 2009 23:41
by SandChigger
SandChigger wrote:(What are your sexual harassment laws like over there?)
semuta wrote:[snip]
Wasn't asking you. But if I want some bullshit answer made up or appropriated from someone else's life, rest assured I'll think of you first.

(And if it is true, I hope the bastard didn't even spit on it for lube.)

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 05:11
by inhuien
I'm completely flabbergasted at this turn of conversation and have nothing to add. :X

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 15:26
by smugetsu
So....yeah.

Don't know much about transferring tapes to a computer, but I know that you can buy a turntable that will convert your records into mp3, m4a, etc.. I would imagine that they would probably make a tape deck that can do the same, but who knows what the cost would be like. SandRider's idea with the cables would sound like your best bet, if possible.

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 15:28
by A Thing of Eternity
I think Inhuien is totally fine with knowing how to get the audio to disk, he was more concerned with maximizing the playback quality of the tape - as tape is a VERY finicky medium for recording.

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 15:43
by smugetsu
Well, after an admittedly brief sit-down with Google, I found mostly hardware but also this:

http://www.dak.com/reviews/2020storyt.c ... DAodUmOJkw

It seems they claim that their software can remove a lot of the problems associated with tape transfers- pops, hiss, etc.

Supposedly it will make your finished result broadcast quality, but of course it would depend on the initial quality of the recording (i.e. you can't polish a turd). I don't know if it works or not, but the stuff is out there to find.

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 16:05
by DuneFishUK
Audacity has a noise reduction tool.

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 16:11
by A Thing of Eternity
Noise reduction is a good thing to have when copying from record or tape. I'm not sure what noise reduction plugins my programs have, as I never really would use them when recording... I'm sure they're in there though.

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 16:40
by inhuien
All the tapes are in effect 1st gen masters that were copied off at the the sames time as the final mix down and there was no Dolby noise reduction used, the tracks themselves all fairly loud punky tracks so signal to noise shouldn't be a hassle. Unless there has been a lot of dropout/degradation, which I hope not, the tapes have been stored in a constantly dry atmosphere so I'm hopeful. Thanks for the link smugetsu, however they're wanting cash that I can't give them.

I'm going to use the simplest route, line transfer to soundcard. I'll compare MS Soundrecorder and Audacity. Were he dead Albini would be spinning in his grave. :)

AToE or anyone got opinions regarding the output format, WAV vs FLAC, anyone got experience here.

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 16:52
by A Thing of Eternity
I've never used (or heard of) FLAC, but WAV is totally acceptable as a pro format, it's pretty much industry standard. Does that progam let you choose sample rate and how many bits etc? If so, put the bit/audio sample size at 16 bit (that's as high as CDs go anyways, so any higher is useless) and the sample rate to 44kHz.

I like WAV, haven't ever had any compatability issues or sound quality loss.

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 16:55
by inhuien
WAV it is then, Free Lossless Audio Codex is a very fine format coming in at about 3/4 of CD audio file sizes.

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 17:33
by A Thing of Eternity
Ah, I see. WAV files can get really big really fast.

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 17:35
by Freakzilla
inhuien wrote:WAV it is then, Free Lossless Audio Codex is a very fine format coming in at about 3/4 of CD audio file sizes.
I thought CD audio IS WAV? :?

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 17:38
by inhuien
You could be right, I just don't know to be honest. But CD is a Sony/Philips medium so....:?

Re: Cassette Tape Transfer to Computer.

Posted: 19 Aug 2009 18:29
by A Thing of Eternity
I don't know if CDs stay in WAV, that could be - I do know that when I burn WAV files to CD the burner spends a second converting each file before copying, so I don't know what it's doing when it says it's converting.

Either way, WAV is standard, it's what recording programs (all the ones I know of anyways) use internally.