Re: Other Memory
Posted: 08 Jan 2014 13:23
Some of us continue to laugh.Serkanner wrote:Interestingly enough I was laughed off earlier in this topic (page 5) about me having a similar premises. Serkanner score!
Neener, neener!
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Some of us continue to laugh.Serkanner wrote:Interestingly enough I was laughed off earlier in this topic (page 5) about me having a similar premises. Serkanner score!
Says the one who uses TheHacks' codpiece as a pacifier.BH wrote:Some of us continue to laugh.Serkanner wrote:Interestingly enough I was laughed off earlier in this topic (page 5) about me having a similar premises. Serkanner score!
Neener, neener!
I believe Leto II's OM went back to the original cell. I'm not sure how far back RM's go.distrans wrote:In a letter to William Kennedy, Hunter Thompson confided that he was "coming to view the free enterprise system as the single greatest evil in the history of human savagery."[Hunter S. Thompson The Proud Highway, 1998, pg. 456.]
the bene gesserit mention that other memories provides the revelation of what savagery people are capable of and what great examples of it you have in your ancestry in order to be among the survivors of human evolution.
not sure how deep into history other memories extends but lets say its confined to that portion where language is used; say 80,000 years. that makes nearly 90% of them from hunter gather societys which would predominantly have been matriarchal
yet the pre-born kwisatz haderach only mention agriculturalists men used in alliance to keep the hordes of other memories at bay
was this a comment on where frank saw the peak of human despotism?
I don't remember paul mentioning any alliance
nor any reverend months needing help preserving their individuality from the female line
Where is the term Mohalata from? I don't remember it from my last read-through.Freakzilla wrote: Bene Gesserit Reverend Mothers have what they call their Mohalata, a union of their benign ancestors that protect them from malignant ancestors.
It's first used in Children of Dune, Ghanima calls on it to protect her from Other Memory. It's used a couple of other times in that book as a Fremen term, not related to Other Memory. It's again used in Chapterhouse: Dune by Rebecca, Bellonda, and Murbella in reference to OM.georgiedenbro wrote:Where is the term Mohalata from? I don't remember it from my last read-through.Freakzilla wrote: Bene Gesserit Reverend Mothers have what they call their Mohalata, a union of their benign ancestors that protect them from malignant ancestors.
What Mothers' battle with the Sisterhood's programming? Where are you getting that idea from?distrans wrote:its to easy to think of the spice trance as being the end of it
reading close it would seem more that it was a beginning of each mothers battle between other memories and the sisterhoods programming
Wrong. We learn in the last two books that anyone who gains access to their OM becomes automatically a BG. You have it backwards: the BG are not BG because of their training, which conflicts with the RM memories, but rather the BG are what they are because of the RM memories. That is the entire point of the BG order. This is why Paul and Leto II were such a revelation: they didn't realize that a male BG would have a distinctly different understanding than a female BG does. They assumed that, as usual, the awakened memories would make someone loyal to the BG, because they assumed they already knew what there was to know (they didn't).distrans wrote:i thought it would be obvious other memories mean a sisters predominate memories would fall outside of sisterhood training
georgiedenbro wrote:v
Wrong. We learn in the last two books that anyone who gains access to their OM becomes automatically a BG. loyal to the BG, because they .
i give it up im a fuck up here and theregeorgiedenbro wrote:v
Wrong. We learn in the last two books that anyone who gains access to their OM becomes automatically a BG. loyal to the BG, because they .