Merry Christmas
Posted: 17 Dec 2009 19:22
I think I'm a bit late this year.
Merry Christmas! Only a week and a bit to go and it's snowing!
Merry Christmas! Only a week and a bit to go and it's snowing!
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nice!SandChigger wrote:Happy Erroneous Birth Anniversary of the Nice Little Galilean Jewish Boy Who Supposedly Ended Up on a Roman Cross Day to you, too!
Christmas is great. I'm going home for Christmas, to pig out on lechon! Apparently my mum has ordered it in. Wise woman, get someone else to do the hard work for you.Omphalos wrote:I love this time of year. Merry Christmas everyone.
You should make a card out of that.SandChigger wrote:Happy Erroneous Birth Anniversary of the Nice Little Galilean Jewish Boy Who Supposedly Ended Up on a Roman Cross Day to you, too!
Happy Birthday of Mithras!SandChigger wrote:Happy Erroneous Birth Anniversary of the Nice Little Galilean Jewish Boy Who Supposedly Ended Up on a Roman Cross Day to you, too!
Were going to my sister-in-laws near San Francisco. Im sure that there is some lechon in my future too, then after we have eaten all the good skin, maybe some Paksiw. Mmmmmmmm!chanilover wrote:Christmas is great. I'm going home for Christmas, to pig out on lechon! Apparently my mum has ordered it in. Wise woman, get someone else to do the hard work for you.Omphalos wrote:I love this time of year. Merry Christmas everyone.
That's a good idea. Maybe a Coke Zero too.Crysknife wrote:We gave all our nieghbors a note that said "Due to the hard economic times our family has decided that we have ZERO to give this year" and we taped it to a few king sized ZERO candy bars.
Merry X-mas!
Oh and I thought the cross thing was proven in historical records...just the disagreement as to the tomb thing (and of course the virgin birth) was in question?SandChigger wrote:Happy Erroneous Birth Anniversary of the Nice Little Galilean Jewish Boy Who Supposedly Ended Up on a Roman Cross Day to you, too!
No, not only is the cross thing un-substantiated, it's pretty commonly accepted amonst historians that there are no records of Jesus having existed whatsoever outside the gospels, no one other than Christians ever wrote anything down about Jesus (nothing verified anyways, I've heard of some possible records of someone with the same name being crucified, but those records were actually from hundreds of years later). While it is 99% likely that he was a real person and did start "the way", he is not considered a historical person, such as Muhammed or Esaw, etc.Eyes High wrote:Oh and I thought the cross thing was proven in historical records...just the disagreement as to the tomb thing (and of course the virgin birth) was in question?SandChigger wrote:Happy Erroneous Birth Anniversary of the Nice Little Galilean Jewish Boy Who Supposedly Ended Up on a Roman Cross Day to you, too!
A Thing of Eternity wrote:No, not only is the cross thing un-substantiated, it's pretty commonly accepted amonst historians that there are no records of Jesus having existed whatsoever outside the gospels, no one other than Christians ever wrote anything down about Jesus (nothing verified anyways, I've heard of some possible records of someone with the same name being crucified, but those records were actually from hundreds of years later). While it is 99% likely that he was a real person and did start "the way", he is not considered a historical person, such as Muhammed or Esaw, etc.Eyes High wrote:Oh and I thought the cross thing was proven in historical records...just the disagreement as to the tomb thing (and of course the virgin birth) was in question?SandChigger wrote:Happy Erroneous Birth Anniversary of the Nice Little Galilean Jewish Boy Who Supposedly Ended Up on a Roman Cross Day to you, too!
I could be wrong, but I'm not aware of any Jewish records of him, I don't think they thought he was very important, he was one of many hundreds of "messiahs" at the time, and the Jews weren't looking for a spiritual revolution, their version of a messiah was a person with an army that would come and get rid of the Romans.Eyes High wrote:A Thing of Eternity wrote:No, not only is the cross thing un-substantiated, it's pretty commonly accepted amonst historians that there are no records of Jesus having existed whatsoever outside the gospels, no one other than Christians ever wrote anything down about Jesus (nothing verified anyways, I've heard of some possible records of someone with the same name being crucified, but those records were actually from hundreds of years later). While it is 99% likely that he was a real person and did start "the way", he is not considered a historical person, such as Muhammed or Esaw, etc.Eyes High wrote:Oh and I thought the cross thing was proven in historical records...just the disagreement as to the tomb thing (and of course the virgin birth) was in question?SandChigger wrote:Happy Erroneous Birth Anniversary of the Nice Little Galilean Jewish Boy Who Supposedly Ended Up on a Roman Cross Day to you, too!
Interesting...cause I had heard (need to look it up myself I know) that there were historical records at least kept by the Jewish people at that time which acknowledge him as a person and had his lineage. And that even the Muslims thought of him as a good teacher.
Well thanks for the reply my friend
To sum up, happy Catholic holiday which usurped the pagan rite of winter solstice!I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
The_Preacher wrote:I like the sentiment of this thread. It's Christmas-time, folks! Let's not get too politically correct.
In that vein: Merry Christmas!!
Meanwhile, it's also Chanukah so Happy Chanukuh!
Take those sentiments for what it's worth to you from a Neo-Pagan, Buddhist believer in native spirituality. Jesus was a great man, don't get me wrong, but Gandhi hit the nail on the head when he said, and I quote:To sum up, happy Catholic holiday which usurped the pagan rite of winter solstice!I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.