a bit of drama
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- lotek
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a bit of drama
My flatmate had a girlfriend
she liked him so much she got him a Mac(that he would pay back)
they fall out
the girl is really pissed and seeks solace in hate, classic...
she's worried he won't pay her back
sends a text "if you don't pay back that much per month i'll take matters in my own hands"
yeah well didn't think much of it, a lot of people make threats like that but usually come to their senses and realize it's childish
But not her(you guessed she is childish)
Knock on the door, I think it's our other flatmate so after waiting a bit just for the heck of it I go down the stairs while my flatmate watches Reno 911 on his Mac
Door opened and surprise surprise, the girl...
with a fat guy dressed in black and another with a half burnt face
so first thing I go for closing the door but they block it, I try to push them back but they're way too heavy for that...
then they go upstairs with the girl while I ponder getting more involved with something that has got nothing to do with me...
they grab the Mac and out they go
Another week end in London!
she liked him so much she got him a Mac(that he would pay back)
they fall out
the girl is really pissed and seeks solace in hate, classic...
she's worried he won't pay her back
sends a text "if you don't pay back that much per month i'll take matters in my own hands"
yeah well didn't think much of it, a lot of people make threats like that but usually come to their senses and realize it's childish
But not her(you guessed she is childish)
Knock on the door, I think it's our other flatmate so after waiting a bit just for the heck of it I go down the stairs while my flatmate watches Reno 911 on his Mac
Door opened and surprise surprise, the girl...
with a fat guy dressed in black and another with a half burnt face
so first thing I go for closing the door but they block it, I try to push them back but they're way too heavy for that...
then they go upstairs with the girl while I ponder getting more involved with something that has got nothing to do with me...
they grab the Mac and out they go
Another week end in London!
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Re: a bit of drama
...Yeah....cool... *slowly backs away towards telephone to call insane asylum*
- A Thing of Eternity
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Re: a bit of drama
I'd have had a hard time not losing my cool, but I guess seeing big thugs does have a calming effect.
- lotek
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Re: a bit of drama
they looked more like bouncers but as much as I like my flatmate I've learned to assess situations before barging in and finding myself taking sides without knowing
it was a little wounded girl thinking her ex was trying to rip her off, and it was obvious they came just for the Mac and nothing else
My first reflex was to stop them coming in but when I saw the girl I knew they didn't mean business...
"Hell hath no fury" and all that...
it was a little wounded girl thinking her ex was trying to rip her off, and it was obvious they came just for the Mac and nothing else
My first reflex was to stop them coming in but when I saw the girl I knew they didn't mean business...
"Hell hath no fury" and all that...
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Re: a bit of drama
Yeah, sounds like you're right.
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Re: a bit of drama
.45 Navy Colt or a double-barrel shotgun woulda been handy ....
oh yeah, y'all can't have no shit like that, can ya ?
oh yeah, y'all can't have no shit like that, can ya ?
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Re: a bit of drama
It would have made a fine substitute for the level-headed thinking which seemed to prevail...SandRider wrote:.45 Navy Colt or a double-barrel shotgun woulda been handy ....
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Re: a bit of drama
No matter how many Americans I meet in person or "chat" with online, they all seem just a little bit bonkers.Lundse wrote:It would have made a fine substitute for the level-headed thinking which seemed to prevail...SandRider wrote:.45 Navy Colt or a double-barrel shotgun woulda been handy ....
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Re: a bit of drama
I was wondering what I'd do if a couple of strange burly men forced their way into my house. I'd probably ask "where to you want me?"
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Re: a bit of drama
Totally in agreement with the Rider of the Sands on this one...Lundse wrote:It would have made a fine substitute for the level-headed thinking which seemed to prevail...SandRider wrote:.45 Navy Colt or a double-barrel shotgun woulda been handy ....
Forcing your way into someone's apartment is breaking and entering, and although they only took the laptop, there's no telling what else they could have done while they were in there. Of course, I'm glad it didn't come to that, but things would have worked out very differently if two large men had tried to force their way into my apartment.
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I can vouch for Smug's arsenal.. 3 steps in you would have large holes in various areas of your body.. and thats before he gets the BFG out.!!
Bonkers? maybe, just the way things work in this old red white and blue.
Bonkers? maybe, just the way things work in this old red white and blue.
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Re: a bit of drama
Does this mean you are always armed when you open the front door?trang wrote:I can vouch for Smug's arsenal.. 3 steps in you would have large holes in various areas of your body.. and thats before he gets the BFG out.!!
Bonkers? maybe, just the way things work in this old red white and blue.
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Re: a bit of drama
I knew you'd say something along those linesSandRider wrote:.45 Navy Colt or a double-barrel shotgun woulda been handy ....
oh yeah, y'all can't have no shit like that, can ya ?
thing is it's my flatmate's business really, we are friends but we just met and I hate getting involved in stuff that is not directly linked to me.inhuien wrote:Call the cops and report it.
I mean how do I know who is right or wrong here?
As soon as i realized they were just in for that stupid computer I decided not to risk my stuff or some form of vendetta(kanly lol)started for the wrong reasons...
no one was hurt and all in all she just came to get back what was rightfully hers
If they had done more than that they would have ended with a fire poker in the mouth!
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Re: a bit of drama
The cases:smugetsu wrote:...although they only took the laptop, there's no telling what else they could have done while they were in there.Lundse wrote:It would have made a fine substitute for the level-headed thinking which seemed to prevail...SandRider wrote:.45 Navy Colt or a double-barrel shotgun woulda been handy ....
1 - Breaking and entering, to steal a few items, homeowner has no gun - a few items are stolen.
2 - Breaking and entering, to steal a few items, homeowner has a gun - very real possibility of violence and death, over a few baubles.
3 - Breaking and entering, to kill or main, homeowner has no gun - certainty of violence, possibility of death.
4 - Breaking and entering, to kill or main, homeowner has a gun - certainty of violence and quite probably death.
Now factor in what happens in cases 1 and 2, when every homeowner has a gun - yup, the criminals will bring guns too, and have them at the ready. Any homeowner who believes he is better of in that situation is either bonkers, or so paranoid (and armed) he is making things worse.
As an exercise, consider how many cases of 'I am breaking into this house specifically to cause violence' actually occur. Only those cases are really improved (if you can call it that) with a firearm...
- lotek
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Re: a bit of drama
yup i concur...
I've seen my share of thugs and I don't back down even when it means pain but i need motivation for that...
otherwise I stay clear of trouble as much as i can
I've seen my share of thugs and I don't back down even when it means pain but i need motivation for that...
otherwise I stay clear of trouble as much as i can
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Re: a bit of drama
I'm just saying that I'm glad it worked out the way it did. Lotek (or anyone else, for the that matter) didn't get injured, and all they took was what (arguably) belonged to the gal. Considering the circumstances, that's the best outcome, and kudos to Lotek for keeping a cool head. Firearm or not, he could have attacked them and hurt them or gotten himself hurt in the process.
Some criminals will bring a gun whether the home owner has one or not. I love the peace-loving attitude that if you just mind your own business nobody will hurt you. "If I don't have a gun, the people that come to rob my house won't bring one." Maybe I'm just cynical, bonkers, or both. Maybe things are different on this side of the pond (gun control a lot less strict, etc) but here that logic just won't fly.
Am I always armed when I answer the door? Depends on whether or not I was expecting the knock in the first place. If it's two in the morning and nobody called first...yeah, I'm armed.
And on a lighter note:
Some criminals will bring a gun whether the home owner has one or not. I love the peace-loving attitude that if you just mind your own business nobody will hurt you. "If I don't have a gun, the people that come to rob my house won't bring one." Maybe I'm just cynical, bonkers, or both. Maybe things are different on this side of the pond (gun control a lot less strict, etc) but here that logic just won't fly.
Am I always armed when I answer the door? Depends on whether or not I was expecting the knock in the first place. If it's two in the morning and nobody called first...yeah, I'm armed.
And on a lighter note:
I can't be the only one who drew a comparison between Lotek's statement and the statements of Chanilover a little earlier in the thread, can I? No offense to either of you fine gents, of course.lotek wrote:If they had done more than that they would have ended with a fire poker in the mouth!
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Re: a bit of drama
I will make the argument here that it is not the only thing that was taken, and something that I think is at the philosophical root of this disagreement about whether physical force to prevent entry would have been appropriate.smugetsu wrote:I'm just saying that I'm glad it worked out the way it did. Lotek (or anyone else, for the that matter) didn't get injured, and all they took was what (arguably) belonged to the gal.
Lotek also lost, or had taken, the feeling of security in one's own home. Either a person's home is their castle, or the commune's property is anyone's to access whenever they want. I think there is much more of a tendency in America to be Gandalf at the door when strangers try to bully their way in: You shall not pass!
England ... wouldn't want to overgeneralize because I only spent a year there in university dormitory, which is communal by nature, but I think there is a more communal view of property. Most certainly it's the case (regardless of location) when you have roommates in a rented flat ... it's not your castle, it's shared space, you have very little privacy and thus very little privacy to lose.
My willingness to forcefully prevent the entry of burglars has very little to do with "things" I might lose, it has to do with my visceral reaction to strangers deciding that it is perfectly okay for them to screw with my life. I think that should be a perilous choice on their part if they don't know me. Firearms are something of a last resort here, I would prefer that they simply lose a little hamstring to the dog, but lacking a dog at the moment, having a Sig Sauer handy is a functional substitute.
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Re: a bit of drama
Agreed, and very well put, Olympos.
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Re: a bit of drama
True that some criminals will always, find a way to be armed. . . but the best way to keep guns out of the hands of the majority of casual criminals is to restrict the number of weapons in circulation,
I know why he didn't , but matey boy should have setup a standing order and paid the bitch what he owed - he knew the score. Shades of grey and all, this might be disproportionate, but it wasn't random or unprovoked.
I know why he didn't , but matey boy should have setup a standing order and paid the bitch what he owed - he knew the score. Shades of grey and all, this might be disproportionate, but it wasn't random or unprovoked.
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Re: a bit of drama
yeah in this case it was not really a burglary, just a case of a spurned lover seeking revenge.
If it had been a real house raid my reaction would have been quite diferent, but I agree that having a gun in the house would only aggravate the level of the situation...
I understand people with a different culture would have arguments for the opposite point of view but it was not my intention to start talking about gun control on this post.
But i don't mind if we do though.
If it had been a real house raid my reaction would have been quite diferent, but I agree that having a gun in the house would only aggravate the level of the situation...
I understand people with a different culture would have arguments for the opposite point of view but it was not my intention to start talking about gun control on this post.
But i don't mind if we do though.
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Re: a bit of drama
And I'm too new to ever spur a gun control argument, they're generally poisonous to a collegial atmosphere at forums.
Anyway, you don't need to answer the door with a gun in hand, that's crazy .... just keep a softball bat next to the door.
Anyway, you don't need to answer the door with a gun in hand, that's crazy .... just keep a softball bat next to the door.
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Re: a bit of drama
Eh, it wouldn't be the first gun control discussion we've had here, and I'm sure it wouldn't be the last. We've always done a good job (I feel) of keeping the discussion civil and not making it personal. I have a lot of respect for the other members here, and the feeling that I get is that they have a lot of respect for everyone, too.Olympos wrote:And I'm too new to ever spur a gun control argument, they're generally poisonous to a collegial atmosphere at forums.
Anyway, you don't need to answer the door with a gun in hand, that's crazy .... just keep a softball bat next to the door.
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Re: a bit of drama
We've done the gun control argument here a million times, it's a total waste. Both sides have good arguments, Americans are raised to believe one side of the argument, the rest of us were all raised to believe the other, no possibilty whatsoever of either side convincing the other, giant waste of time.