DUNE DISCUSSION FORUM FOR ORTHODOX HERBERTARIANS
http://www.jacurutu.com/
What a fucking idiot.Anderson: One of the best examples, to me, is what Frank Herbert created in Dune with the Fremen and their belief in Shai-Hulud. On the surface, it might seem a typical “primitive people worshiping a giant monster” as you see in so many clichéd fantasies. But the Fremen have an entire accompanying philosophy, that the sandworms aren’t really the god but a manifestation of the power of the desert; they have water rituals (which stem directly from the harsh desert landscape in which they live); they have a culture surrounding their religion: prayers, common sayings, all the details that show how pervasive those beliefs are.
0 responses so far ↓
There are no comments yet...Kick things off by filling out the form below.
some idiot who puts kewl pew pews everywhere wrote: Have you ever read a lengthy action-packed scene, a fight, a chase, and even though it’s full of Sturm und Drang, you’re not very excited about it? Probably because the action feels like filler, “insert adventure here.”
According to his own website (KJA) wrote: His collaborations with Frank Herbert’s son on a series of Dune novels has brought his career to new heights, landing him time and again on a number of best seller lists
Ya think that will get past the moderator?Serkanner wrote:
We can only wait and see. If they don't they aren't worth shit to read, if they do than I might return and read more. Can't lose really.Freakzilla wrote:Ya think that will get past the moderator?Serkanner wrote:
If only Frank Herbert had made some action figures.Some hack wrote:But because it is someone else’s playground, and because the rules are already established, I don’t have the same amount of creative freedom I would have in my own original creation. Sometimes, a story decision that seems obvious and necessary to me is not possible to include because the licensor has other priorities (an action figure design contradicts it, for example).
Um...DuneFishUK wrote:If only Frank Herbert had made some action figures.Some hack wrote:But because it is someone else’s playground, and because the rules are already established, I don’t have the same amount of creative freedom I would have in my own original creation. Sometimes, a story decision that seems obvious and necessary to me is not possible to include because the licensor has other priorities (an action figure design contradicts it, for example).
Dune by Frank Herbert
In the week before their departure to Arrakis, when all the final scurrying about had reached a nearly unbearable frenzy, an old crone came to visit the mother of the boy, Paul.
It’s interesting that this short, 32-word paragraph, like Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell’s 36, introduce a huge, sweeping epic. It might be fair to say that this is a credit to the finely considered core themes that both Herbert and Clarke preserved at the centers of their masterpieces.
Dune’s first paragraph assigns special significance to one particular place (Arrakis), and one particular person (Paul). Though two other people are mentioned (the old crone, and Paul’s mother), the fact that they are not yet given names, shifts the emphasis to Paul. It may seem as though this is a simple, quickie set-up, but a look just under the surface reveals that these 32 words are a statement of purpose. Dune is a book about a young man challenged by the old order. The boy Paul grows up to be the man Muad’dib and challenges every assumption of the older people and even older customs and institutions around him. That’s the emotional core of a story that plays out as a pastiche on the dangers of a single-resource economy.
SandChigger // August 3, 2010 at 3:27 pm
I wish you had asked Anderson about that “Chisra Sala Muad’Dib” fake Fremen/Arabic nonsense in The Winds of Dune. He didn’t seem to have any problem with the “clumsiness” of that bogus insertion.
(I have no doubt that you’ll simply delete this, so I’ll warn you ahead of time that I’ll be posting about this on my own blog. You’re welcome to come by and comment: I only censor the complete droolers. Tah!)
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
"They had a Tleilaxu Master, too," Marty said. "I saw him when they went under the net. I would have so liked to study another Master."
"Don't see why. Always whistling[11] at us, always making it necessary to stomp them down. I don't like treating Masters that way and you know it! If it weren't for them . . ."
"They're not gods, Daniel."
"Neither are we."
"I still think you let them escape."
"What would you have said to the Master, anyway?" Daniel asked.
"I was going to joke when he asked who we were. They always ask that. I was going to say: 'What did you expect, God Himself with a flowing beard?' "
Daniel chuckled. "That would've been funny. They have such a hard time accepting that Face Dancers can be independent of them."
"I don't see why. It's a natural consequence. They gave us the power to absorb the memories and experiences of other people. Gather enough of those and . . ."
"It's personas we take, Marty."
"Whatever. The Masters should've known we would gather enough of them one day to make our own decisions about our own future."
Isn't he brave, declaring himself a FoK in public!PhilAthans on Twitter: If you think you're going to use my blog to bad mouth my friends, you gots another think comin. Comments are friendly or rejected.
about 3 hours ago via TweetDeck
What's your opinion of this guy, Omph?Bio Former Senior Managing Editor for novels at Wizards of the Coast, New York Times best-selling fantasy author, and general SF/fantasy man-about-town.
so ... is he like ... bitching about having to write Dune fanfiction for a dollar ?TheKeith wrote: But because it is someone else’s playground, and because the rules are already established, I don’t have the same amount of creative freedom I would have in my own original creation. Sometimes, a story decision that seems obvious and necessary to me is not possible ...
SandRider wrote:so ... is he like ... bitching about having to write Dune fanfiction for a dollar ?TheKeith wrote: But because it is someone else’s playground, and because the rules are already established, I don’t have the same amount of creative freedom I would have in my own original creation. Sometimes, a story decision that seems obvious and necessary to me is not possible ...
fuck, I see whole set of spinning lies acomin' ...
human reader : Why did you turn Marty & Daniel into robots ?
TheKeith: hey, it wasn't my idea, it was in the notes, or the outline, or a vision Brian had from his mom,
if it had been up to me, I would have done things differently
I almost whispered thanks, then I realized its just another lie.numbnuts wrote:Sometimes, a story decision that seems obvious and necessary to me is not possible ...
