Re: thus sayeth Keith ...
Posted: 20 Jan 2011 18:34
I have to say, the more I hear about the stupid shit in the McDune books, the more I'm actively appalled.
DUNE DISCUSSION FORUM FOR ORTHODOX HERBERTARIANS
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This one's for the Dukester!Superstars Writing Seminar R/H side, second from bottom wrote:"You'd be hard put to find anyone you understands what it takes to be a writer better than Kevin J. Anderson and Rebecca Moesta."
Robert J. Defendi - game writer, novelist, Writers of the Future winner
I'm pretty damn sure that that's grammatically incorrect.D Pope wrote:Superstars Writing Seminar R/H side, second from bottom wrote:"You'd be hard put to find anyone you understands what it takes to be a writer better than Kevin J. Anderson and Rebecca Moesta."
Robert J. Defendi - game writer, novelist, Writers of the Future winner
Well, I guess that's why you're not a "Writers of the Future winner."Kojiro wrote:I'm pretty damn sure that that's grammatically incorrect.D Pope wrote:Superstars Writing Seminar R/H side, second from bottom wrote:"You'd be hard put to find anyone you understands what it takes to be a writer better than Kevin J. Anderson and Rebecca Moesta."
Robert J. Defendi - game writer, novelist, Writers of the Future winner
HOW DARE HE?!D Pope wrote:Another interview response, partial quote but you get the idea;
Q... Browsing through reviews, the novel received sort of a mixed response. What are your thoughts on how the duology turned out, and the difficulties of living up to such high expectations?
A...For “Hunters of Dune” and “Sandworms of Dune” we were more constrained than in the previous books because we had to follow Frank Herbert’s detailed outline. A lot of the things people were complaining about were the things Frank left for us to do. But we had to write the books in the way he intended for the grand finale to unfold.
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ZING!!!D Pope wrote:Well, I guess that's why you're not a "Writers of the Future winner."Kojiro wrote:I'm pretty damn sure that that's grammatically incorrect.D Pope wrote:Superstars Writing Seminar R/H side, second from bottom wrote:"You'd be hard put to find anyone you understands what it takes to be a writer better than Kevin J. Anderson and Rebecca Moesta."
Robert J. Defendi - game writer, novelist, Writers of the Future winner
+1SadisticCynic wrote:It should probably be noted that practically all (I didn't check page 2) of those quotes begin with 'I'.
most people doing interviews with Keith are self-blahggers & dead-end fanzines ...SandChigger wrote:Another problem is that it seems most of the people doing interviews out there don't have the balls to piss off a "bigshot" like The Hack. They're probably afraid of getting a bad rep among authors and ending up with no one to interview. Cowards.
thank you, that makes a little sense now; I was trying to place this in terms of his scribbling,Hunchback Jack wrote:The only context I can think of is a discussion about manned space flight versus sending probes.SandRider wrote:what does this even mean?Do you want Columbus to go across the ocean, or do you want to put a message in a bottle and hope that it lands somewhere? I'd rather have actual people be there. Whether they look like Americans or like the inhabitants of some other country, depends on who has the most drive.
I'd like to think it made some kind of sense in context, but I kinda doubt it ...
HBJ
hey, thanks for pointing that out, Duke - I realized that the 20th Stage of Acceptance is howTheDukester wrote: I call this Stage 13 on my patented Dealing With Anderhack Scale™: "Seething Hatred and Mini-Rants." It's often combined with Stage 14: "Daydreams of Cartoon-Like Violence" (i.e., "If I see Anderson, I will literally reach down his throat and pull out his spine!").
I'm still trying to reach the 20th and final stage myself: "Accepting that Keith is an Inconsequential Blowhard." In my experience, only SandRider has successfully reached Stage 20 ... although he occasionally regresses.
right, and that's one of the Early Stages, somewhere right before "Seething Hatred" ...Kojiro wrote:I have to say, the more I hear about the stupid shit in the McDune books, the more I'm actively appalled.
Nekhrun wrote:Here we go.Tleszer wrote:Chiggerleaks?
Denialinhuien wrote:The stages should be documented. My own journey started wiith: #1 Surprise (possibly surprised disbelief).
So who's ready with number 2??
Dukester - do you have this list in full form? if not, I'm compiling what I saw here - it's hilariously awesome! Can you fill in the blanks, or post the original list yourself?Freakzilla wrote:Denialinhuien wrote:The stages should be documented. My own journey started wiith: #1 Surprise (possibly surprised disbelief).
So who's ready with number 2??
Hunchback Jack wrote:It doesn't help when KJA blame's Frank's outline as the reason that the Dune 7 novels received "mixed reviews".
HBJ
It's possible that there's some truth to this, but seeing it requires a slight shift of emphasis....KJA blame's Frank's outline as the reason that the Dune 7 novels received "mixed reviews".
I'll go with that - I listened to Paul of Dune long after I knew it would be shite.Kojiro wrote:I think morbid curiosity should be after actively appalled as I'm just beginning to feel that.
Maybe "The Outline" was a practical joke on his son from beyond the grave?D Pope wrote:Hunchback Jack wrote:It doesn't help when KJA blame's Frank's outline as the reason that the Dune 7 novels received "mixed reviews".
HBJIt's possible that there's some truth to this, but seeing it requires a slight shift of emphasis....KJA blame's Frank's outline as the reason that the Dune 7 novels received "mixed reviews".
Not so much. As you've likely already guessed, I mostly just use the "[X] steps" as a theme I can visit every so often to make jokes at the expense of Anderhack.grandmastercrafter wrote:Dukester - do you have this list in full form?
Sandrider? Accepting?? Is the sky blue in your world?grandmastercrafter wrote:Dukester - do you have this list in full form? if not, I'm compiling what I saw here - it's hilariously awesome! Can you fill in the blanks, or post the original list yourself?Freakzilla wrote:Denialinhuien wrote:The stages should be documented. My own journey started wiith: #1 Surprise (possibly surprised disbelief).
So who's ready with number 2??
Dealing With Anderhack Scale™
Stage:
1. Surprise
2. Denial
3. X
4. Dumbfounded Confusion
5. X
6. Flabbergasted Disbelief
7. Amazed Disgust
8. X
9. X
10. X
11. Actively Appalled
12. X
13. Seething Hatred and Mini-Rants
14. Daydreams of Cartoon-Like Violence
15. X
16. X
17. X
18. X
19. X
20. Accepting that Keith is an Inconsequential Blowhard (Stage 20 adept: SandRider)
That's a better spin than I had, I was thinking without the outline, ALL reviews would've been bad.Freakzilla wrote:Maybe "The Outline" was a practical joke on his son from beyond the grave?D Pope wrote:Hunchback Jack wrote:It doesn't help when KJA blame's Frank's outline as the reason that the Dune 7 novels received "mixed reviews".
HBJIt's possible that there's some truth to this, but seeing it requires a slight shift of emphasis....KJA blame's Frank's outline as the reason that the Dune 7 novels received "mixed reviews".
"I'll write this shit outline and hide it a safe deposit box. Then when #1 son finds it, we'll see how much attention he payed to my other books"
I've touched that one once or twice, I think. But the problem is, the Asshat Pickle Fucker always does something to bring me back down.TheDukester wrote:and I believe that the final stage is an epiphany along the lines of "Kevin J. Anderson just doesn't matter."
LOL - just going by what was written - apparently he regresses from time to time...Omphalos wrote:Sandrider? Accepting?? Is the sky blue in your world?grandmastercrafter wrote:Dukester - do you have this list in full form? if not, I'm compiling what I saw here - it's hilariously awesome! Can you fill in the blanks, or post the original list yourself?Freakzilla wrote:Denialinhuien wrote:The stages should be documented. My own journey started wiith: #1 Surprise (possibly surprised disbelief).
So who's ready with number 2??
Dealing With Anderhack Scale™
Stage:
1. Surprise
2. Denial
3. X
4. Dumbfounded Confusion
5. X
6. Flabbergasted Disbelief
7. Amazed Disgust
8. X
9. X
10. X
11. Actively Appalled
12. X
13. Seething Hatred and Mini-Rants
14. Daydreams of Cartoon-Like Violence
15. X
16. X
17. X
18. X
19. X
20. Accepting that Keith is an Inconsequential Blowhard (Stage 20 adept: SandRider)
TheDukester wrote: I call this Stage 13 on my patented Dealing With Anderhack Scale™: "Seething Hatred and Mini-Rants." It's often combined with Stage 14: "Daydreams of Cartoon-Like Violence" (i.e., "If I see Anderson, I will literally reach down his throat and pull out his spine!").
I'm still trying to reach the 20th and final stage myself: "Accepting that Keith is an Inconsequential Blowhard." In my experience, only SandRider has successfully reached Stage 20 ... although he occasionally regresses.
I think this is very possible... nay - probable!Freakzilla wrote:Maybe "The Outline" was a practical joke on his son from beyond the grave?
"I'll write this shit outline and hide it a safe deposit box. Then when #1 son finds it, we'll see how much attention he payed to my other books"
Who, in your opinion, is the greatest writer of all time?
KJA:I couldn’t venture to say — my college background was in physics and astronomy, with a minor in Russian History!
Which book have you found yourself unable to finish?
KJA:Quite a few of them, alas. My reading time is limited and very precious. If the author cannot make his work comprehensible and engaging, then I feel no obligation to keep reading.
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