Conventional Space Travel
Posted: 25 Nov 2011 16:42
Although the Guild had a monopoly on long distance space travel up till the time of the Scattering, are we ever told how much it dominates space travel within planetary systems?
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I was just reading Dune at the park while the kids played. In the chapter in which Kynes dies, he mentions that the ruling class was always too busy to look up from grubbing for spice to explore the relationship.A Thing of Eternity wrote:They may have thought it was futile, may have not understood what the Fremen were trying to do, and may not have understood the threat.
Spice is extremely poorly understood at the beginning of Dune, Paul himself is surprised when he figures out it has something to do with the worms... which to me was always a little silly, I'd think people would have researched the subject of spice more than just about any other subject in the universe... but hey, FH wasn't perfect.
The Guild is supposed to be neutral and they always choose the safest path through the future. Besides, if crushing the Fremen was easy the Harkonnens or Sardaukar would have done it.Michelangelo wrote:I actually assumed the Guild had a monopoly over all travel to certain space regions and Arrakis, being of great importance, was one of these. I don't see the Guild as the type to manufacture much, so it is more likely that they simply regulated them or were blackmailing the Fremen.
Now that I think about it, why didn't the guild crush the Fremen's hopes early on? If the planet was made green there would go their supply of spice.
Oh I remember it was explained, I just never thought it was a fully realized explanation in my opinion. FH could have done better than that I think, but obviously he was short on space too.Freakzilla wrote:I was just reading Dune at the park while the kids played. In the chapter in which Kynes dies, he mentions that the ruling class was always too busy to look up from grubbing for spice to explore the relationship.A Thing of Eternity wrote:They may have thought it was futile, may have not understood what the Fremen were trying to do, and may not have understood the threat.
Spice is extremely poorly understood at the beginning of Dune, Paul himself is surprised when he figures out it has something to do with the worms... which to me was always a little silly, I'd think people would have researched the subject of spice more than just about any other subject in the universe... but hey, FH wasn't perfect.
There are many versions in the Fullerton library. My bro and I are working on a plan to go photograph them all properly.A Thing of Eternity wrote:Oh I remember it was explained, I just never thought it was a fully realized explanation in my opinion. FH could have done better than that I think, but obviously he was short on space too.Freakzilla wrote:I was just reading Dune at the park while the kids played. In the chapter in which Kynes dies, he mentions that the ruling class was always too busy to look up from grubbing for spice to explore the relationship.A Thing of Eternity wrote:They may have thought it was futile, may have not understood what the Fremen were trying to do, and may not have understood the threat.
Spice is extremely poorly understood at the beginning of Dune, Paul himself is surprised when he figures out it has something to do with the worms... which to me was always a little silly, I'd think people would have researched the subject of spice more than just about any other subject in the universe... but hey, FH wasn't perfect.
I'd love to know if copies exist of the drafts of Dune before he whittled it down to a shorter length for the publishers.
Omphalos wrote:There are many versions in the Fullerton library. My bro and I are working on a plan to go photograph them all properly.A Thing of Eternity wrote:Oh I remember it was explained, I just never thought it was a fully realized explanation in my opinion. FH could have done better than that I think, but obviously he was short on space too.Freakzilla wrote:I was just reading Dune at the park while the kids played. In the chapter in which Kynes dies, he mentions that the ruling class was always too busy to look up from grubbing for spice to explore the relationship.A Thing of Eternity wrote:They may have thought it was futile, may have not understood what the Fremen were trying to do, and may not have understood the threat.
Spice is extremely poorly understood at the beginning of Dune, Paul himself is surprised when he figures out it has something to do with the worms... which to me was always a little silly, I'd think people would have researched the subject of spice more than just about any other subject in the universe... but hey, FH wasn't perfect.
I'd love to know if copies exist of the drafts of Dune before he whittled it down to a shorter length for the publishers.
Say WTF?Omphalos wrote:I can tellegret you started.
Not here.Michelangelo wrote:Ah okay. It's in the special collections. I recall while lurking a while back someone mentioned they tried to take as many photos as possible of the collection. Any links per chance?
That's going to freak the newbies out.Crysknife wrote:Well I think the Fremen were in control the whole time. Their collective consciousness insured that the events that led to Paul would come about. And that meant the Guild never tried to take control. This is my thought as to what the "higher plan" was.
Yep. Not even I can figure out what I meant.SandChigger wrote:Say WTF?Omphalos wrote:I can tellegret you started.
(Another iPad autocorrection?)
Some kind of overly chatty bird???Freakzilla wrote::in my best Syd Viscious voice:
tellegrets, I've had a few...
Then again, too few to mention.