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- Mandy
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- Phaedrus
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Yeah, welcome, and please just ignore orald, that's what the rest of us do.
But, as I'm sure you've probably figured out, you're in a minority on this board. That doesn't mean you're any less welcome. Just be prepared to defend your views(a good idea for anyone), and try not to talk too much about Norma or the Golden Path failing. Members around here tend to get pissy when people do that.
Good luck, and I hope you enjoy the board.
But, as I'm sure you've probably figured out, you're in a minority on this board. That doesn't mean you're any less welcome. Just be prepared to defend your views(a good idea for anyone), and try not to talk too much about Norma or the Golden Path failing. Members around here tend to get pissy when people do that.
Good luck, and I hope you enjoy the board.
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- orald
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- Nekhrun
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We're not really that bad. It's too bad you newbies didn't know sunnypuck over on DN. I treat Orald's posts a lot like I did that guy's. There are a lot of new members here over the last week, I think people are still showing off a little. Things should calm down.LiquidBlue wrote:Hi dm1215
Welcome to the forum...and good luck
dm1215, have you read much of our criticisms of kja & BH's writing? Perhaps we could direct you to some commentary that might convince you of just how terrible even the House books are.
Also, hello.
- Robspierre
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- orald
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What's old? The fact that every time you guys say "ignore Orald, we do", "we appologize for Orald" etc while I'm not sure WTF I've written here so far to earn that? Yea, getting old.
The new dummy's already on the it too, asking why I'm so evil in that feminism discussion.
Yo, folks them read P&B trash and have difficulty reading Dune etc are DUMB. Enjoy yer stay.
The new dummy's already on the it too, asking why I'm so evil in that feminism discussion.
Yo, folks them read P&B trash and have difficulty reading Dune etc are DUMB. Enjoy yer stay.
In memory of Perach, who suffered and died needlessly.
I wish I could have been with you that one last time.
I wish I could have been with you that one last time.
- Robspierre
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I don't care whether anybody likes the atrocities or not. I have my suspicions though when, on the same day as when the almighty moderator on DN brings on the topic of fans discovering Dune via the atrocities, also here one person, completely new to Dune, pops up and explicitly mentions to have found Dune via McDune.
Most of the times its just a copy-account with an agenda.
Most of the times its just a copy-account with an agenda.
"... the mystery of life isn't a problem to solve but a reality to experience."
“There is no escape—we pay for the violence of our ancestors.”
Sandrider: "Keith went to Bobo's for a weekend of drinking, watched some DVDs,
and wrote a Dune Novel."
“There is no escape—we pay for the violence of our ancestors.”
Sandrider: "Keith went to Bobo's for a weekend of drinking, watched some DVDs,
and wrote a Dune Novel."
- chanilover
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Hello and welcome.
I started off quite liking the new books, but by the time I got to the last of the legends books, which I bought off ebay for a killing, I just thought they were utter shit.
I know what you mean about God Emperor, the first time I read it I thought it was too wordy and the love affair with Hwi was annoying, but I finished reading it for the second time a few weeks ago and I think it's now my favourite of the books. It's a real grower.
I started off quite liking the new books, but by the time I got to the last of the legends books, which I bought off ebay for a killing, I just thought they were utter shit.
I know what you mean about God Emperor, the first time I read it I thought it was too wordy and the love affair with Hwi was annoying, but I finished reading it for the second time a few weeks ago and I think it's now my favourite of the books. It's a real grower.
"You and your buddies and that b*tch Mandy are nothing but a gang of lying, socially maladjusted losers." - St Hypatia of Arrakeen.
- Phaedrus
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- chanilover
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- LiquidBlue
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I didn't mean anything negative by the good luck Just good luck defending your point of view. I really enjoy how well, for the most part, peole are able to support their arguments. Every point of view worth having should be one you can defend...Nekhrun wrote:We're not really that bad. It's too bad you newbies didn't know sunnypuck over on DN. I treat Orald's posts a lot like I did that guy's. There are a lot of new members here over the last week, I think people are still showing off a little. Things should calm down.LiquidBlue wrote:Hi dm1215
Welcome to the forum...and good luck
Also, about readers that enjoy the new Dune books, but can't get into Frank's...I think that has more to do with level at which your average reader is prepared to think. Frank's books are more conceptual and require higher order thinking, where as KJA&BH are simply surface level texts...people no longer want to think...all the recapping, to me, has a very "TV" feel to it too...(BTW, I have the same critcism of Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series...more repetition than I can stand...)
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"Glory or insanity awaits" -- Rimmer
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"Glory or insanity awaits" -- Rimmer
- Phaedrus
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No. dm1215 hasn't done anything to merit orald or Serk's reactions to him. If we tell everyone who likes something written by Brian and Kevin that they're shitty human beings and don't deserve to live, or are stupid and can't think, then Hypatia, Byron, and KJA are all right about us.chanilover wrote:LEAVE ORALD ALONE YOU BASTARDS!
If that's who we are, I don't want any part of it.
Orald is being a fucking prick, and he needs to stop being one, ESPECIALLY towards new members. I'm not a moderator or admin either, so I'm probably overstepping the line(something Hyp called me out for), but I tihnk we should at least give dm1215 a chance before we start with the lambasting. If he turns out to be another TAZ, I don't care what happens, but from what I can tell, he's an intelligent poster who's willing to look into things rationally. So why don't we present our arguments, let him comb through, and see what he thinks/says, instead of telling him he'll burn in hell for liking some goddamn books.
Fuck, guys.
You aren't thinking or really existing unless you're willing to risk even your own sanity in the judgment of your existence.
- Mandy
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- LiquidBlue
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Well, I'm sure the mods can check IP addresses...I know I can on the forum I moderate...if its someone thats been here before, thats one way to sort things out...
Some never participate. Life happens to them. They get by on little more than dumb persistence and resist with anger or violence all things that might lift them out of resentment-filled illusions of security.
-Alma Mavis Taraza
"Glory or insanity awaits" -- Rimmer
-Alma Mavis Taraza
"Glory or insanity awaits" -- Rimmer
- SandChigger
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- LiquidBlue
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Well then, that does present a problemThey can. But I'm not positive this person has been HERE before.
I found my way here from that site...thank goodness...
Some never participate. Life happens to them. They get by on little more than dumb persistence and resist with anger or violence all things that might lift them out of resentment-filled illusions of security.
-Alma Mavis Taraza
"Glory or insanity awaits" -- Rimmer
-Alma Mavis Taraza
"Glory or insanity awaits" -- Rimmer
- SandChigger
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Did you register there? I haven't checked for your user name.
(It just seems to me that people into the new books are also into belonging to the "Official Forum". I'm curious as to why someone would join here before there. Besides the fact that it sucks over there and the general ambience tastes of dirt...and ass. )
(It just seems to me that people into the new books are also into belonging to the "Official Forum". I'm curious as to why someone would join here before there. Besides the fact that it sucks over there and the general ambience tastes of dirt...and ass. )
"Let the dead give water to the dead. As for me, it's NO MORE FUCKING TEARS!"
- LiquidBlue
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I didn't join there...I found it by accident looking for a reason as to why Siona was in Sheanna's OM, read through some stuff and was generally impressed with some of the views and the fact that people actually QUOTED from the text! How impressive Then I tried to find it in my history a few days later and was like "no, dunenovels is the book website..." Well, that was clue number one that it might not be the most "open" forum on the web...I saw Freaks link to this forum and saw all the screen names that came off as intelligent from dunenovels and decided to join...
The only KJA&BH books I've read were HoD and Sandworms...
The only KJA&BH books I've read were HoD and Sandworms...
Some never participate. Life happens to them. They get by on little more than dumb persistence and resist with anger or violence all things that might lift them out of resentment-filled illusions of security.
-Alma Mavis Taraza
"Glory or insanity awaits" -- Rimmer
-Alma Mavis Taraza
"Glory or insanity awaits" -- Rimmer
- Lisan Al-Gaib
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Re: Newbie
Hello, welcome aboard!dm1215 wrote:Hi. I'm new to Dune as a whole and got into the series thanks to the new Dune novels by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson. I'm currently finishing up the original series by Frank Herbert. I'm about 7/8 done with Chapterhouse. Good times!
The singular multiplicity of this universe draws my deepest attention. It is a thing of ultimate beauty.
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- orald
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Just so you know, "HoD" is kinda reserved for Heretics of Dune, so as to not get confused.LiquidBlue wrote:The only KJA&BH books I've read were HoD and Sandworms...
Here we call the other one Grunters of Dune(?).
And yet Hwi is still annoying.CL wrote:I know what you mean about God Emperor, the first time I read it I thought it was too wordy and the love affair with Hwi was annoying, but I finished reading it for the second time a few weeks ago and I think it's now my favourite of the books. It's a real grower.
In memory of Perach, who suffered and died needlessly.
I wish I could have been with you that one last time.
I wish I could have been with you that one last time.