The Terrorists are winning.....

inhuien · Post by **inhuien** » 06 Aug 2008 10:32

"Federal agents may take a traveler's laptop computer or other electronic device to an off-site location for an unspecified period of time without any suspicion of wrongdoing, as part of border search policies the Department of Homeland Security recently disclosed."
Do you want to know more?

Secher_Nbiw · Post by **Secher_Nbiw** » 06 Aug 2008 11:09

regardless of anything else, isn't this just outright theft?

Robspierre · Post by **Robspierre** » 06 Aug 2008 11:42

What is not mentined is that, with the way the did the grammar in their own declaration, they consider the entire US to be their territory. Also, the Border Patrol has checkpoints inside the US, they are all within the 100 miles of the border, I go through one four days a week during school and i can tel lyou they are a bunch of arrogant assholes, I've actively gone out of my way to conceal my electronics and to provide education related stuff in my vehicle as cover just because the agents go beyond their legal mandate, which is they can only ask if you are US citizen, which legally you have to answer ,any other wuestions they ask you, you may refuse AND refusal is not grounds to have your vehicle searched. Unfortunately the assholes make up all kinds of excuses.

Rob

Post by **Omphalos** » 06 Aug 2008 11:43

I think they just want a chance to beat your high score on Diablo II, then they will give it back.

orald · Post by **orald** » 06 Aug 2008 13:45

Omphalos wrote:I think they just want a chance to beat your high score on Diablo II, then they will give it back.

Nevaaaaa!!!!

Ahh, I haven't played that in a month I think.

I can't wait for them to confiscate my grocery list.

GamePlayer · Post by **GamePlayer** » 06 Aug 2008 17:05

I love the Starship Troopers paraphrasing in your link

Amazing how outright theft can be justified. I wonder if the US is ever going to bounce back from this curtailing of rights or if it's going to get even worse.

A Thing of Eternity · Post by **A Thing of Eternity** » 06 Aug 2008 17:31

GamePlayer wrote:I love the Starship Troopers paraphrasing in your link
Amazing how outright theft can be justified. I wonder if the US is ever going to bounce back from this curtailing of rights or if it's going to get even worse.

Once things start spiraling they rarely spiral into control.

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 06 Aug 2008 19:06

Ah, the Bush Legacy....

Secher_Nbiw · Post by **Secher_Nbiw** » 07 Aug 2008 04:30

is this the beginning of our own butlerian jihad?

inhuien · Post by **inhuien** » 07 Aug 2008 12:32

GamePlayer wrote:I love the Starship Troopers paraphrasing in your link

Aye it seemed fitting

Robspierre · Post by **Robspierre** » 07 Aug 2008 12:44

SandChigger wrote:Ah, the Bush Legacy....

Not to mention the constant fear mongering and the growth of the police state all around.

The war on terror joins the war on selected drugs as another form of authoritarian control.

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/08/07/sw ... l#comments

Rob

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 07 Aug 2008 20:26

So I guess I should remove all trace of my website files along with any that contain "Herbertarian Jihad" from my travellin' laptop before I come home next time, huh?

Post by **Omphalos** » 07 Aug 2008 20:30

Too late. Its already in your permanent file.

Robspierre · Post by **Robspierre** » 07 Aug 2008 21:45

SandChigger wrote:So I guess I should remove all trace of my website files along with any that contain "Herbertarian Jihad" from my travellin' laptop before I come home next time, huh?

Considering the agents couldn't even recognize the hard drive in a Macbook Air and the rise in reports of what amounts ot theft on the part of the agents when it comes ot fancy high end gadgets, I would be leery of bringing my laptop period.

Rob

SpacemanSpiff · Post by **SpacemanSpiff** » 08 Aug 2008 11:19

And if you refuse to hand it over then your whole year is pretty much shot.

Centurion988 · Post by **Centurion988** » 08 Aug 2008 20:40

So, a little confiscation of private property. This is so wrong in so many ways! The feds need to take a step back. Not the America I know!

SandChigger · Post by **SandChigger** » 08 Aug 2008 20:52

Not an America I'm particularly happy about returning to in a few years, either, to be honest.

A Thing of Eternity · Post by **A Thing of Eternity** » 09 Aug 2008 09:35

Centurion988 wrote:So, a little confiscation of private property. This is so wrong in so many ways! The feds need to take a step back. Not the America I know!

Sounds exactly like the America I know

(salt people, salt!)

Centurion988 · Post by **Centurion988** » 09 Aug 2008 12:51

A Thing of Eternity wrote:
Centurion988 wrote:So, a little confiscation of private property. This is so wrong in so many ways! The feds need to take a step back. Not the America I know!
Sounds exactly like the America I know

(salt people, salt!)

LOL funny!
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Tyrant · Post by **Tyrant** » 14 Aug 2008 23:21

just watch an episode of american idol or any show on mtv...it'll make you pray the terrorists win

Rakis · Post by **Rakis** » 15 Aug 2008 20:22

Tyrant wrote:just watch an episode of american idol or any show on mtv...it'll make you pray the terrorists win

GamePlayer · Post by **GamePlayer** » 15 Aug 2008 20:48

I remember a year or two back a front page article hit the globe and mail comparing the number of voters for Canadian Idol and the number of voters in our last federal election. The numbers were anything but encouraging

Post by **Omphalos** » 15 Aug 2008 22:09

GamePlayer wrote:I remember a year or two back a front page article hit the globe and mail comparing the number of voters for Canadian Idol and the number of voters in our last federal election. The numbers were anything but encouraging

Well...It's not like you can call a 1-866 number all night long to vote for the PM, right? You do still only get one vote?

GamePlayer · Post by **GamePlayer** » 15 Aug 2008 22:22

The article was based on per voter, NOT per phone call. There were something like 37 million votes in the last Canadian Idol, more votes than there are people in Canada (which is sitting at somewhere around 33 million right now). That article compared eligible voters against participating viewers in CI. I'd have to look online for the numbers, but they were sad. There were almost as many people voting in CI than the election.

Post by **Omphalos** » 16 Aug 2008 00:02

GamePlayer wrote:The article was based on per voter, NOT per phone call. There were something like 37 million votes in the last Canadian Idol, more votes than there are people in Canada (which is sitting at somewhere around 33 million right now). That article compared eligible voters against participating viewers in CI. I'd have to look online for the numbers, but they were sad. There were almost as many people voting in CI than the election.

You should use SMS for the next election up there. Diddy can come up there and do a "Text or Die" campaign.