Jᴀᴄᴜʀᴜᴛᴜ - Tʜᴇ Cᴀsᴛ Oᴜᴛ

Over There, BobaMatt wrote:Coming to this board {ed:The Dune-Sketch} from a long time posting in Star Wars forums, I'll have to submit that canonicity is somewhat flexible. It {ed: Dune Ency} could be considered outdated and incomplete without considering it completely noncanon - considering how many Star Wars reference books came out before all the reshuffling that came about due to the prequel movies, this fact becomes more clear. It's fiction, and since none of it's true it can be played with.
What's more the Dune: Encyclopedia is an in-universe document, which is a common out used in Star Wars books to explain canon conflicts that arise when new material is released.

HBJ wrote:This is a standard way of dealing with a common problem.

SandChigger wrote:Oh, he touched them alright.

While he touched himself.

Over Here, in a different guise, BobaMatt wrote:Anyway, my larger point is that we can either be militant about it, or we can say, "Alright, they're asking me to accept this as canon. Now...how the fuck do we go about doing that?" while still kind of not caring about KjA's "work." As it's fiction, and not history, it lends itself particularly well to being approached from a number of angles without affecting how you actually feel about things.

I wrote:You also have to take into account who I was talking to: I was trying to make sure a thread that the boardadmin would likely find controversial fly without argument. That being said, I still - to some extent - hold to that thought, as, well, if FH ever wrote an inconsistency into his books, we'd probably retcon it.

The problem comes when something is so egregious and inconsistent that the previous, better book takes precedence. I stopped reading House Atreides when I got to the robotic shuttle.

Anyway, my larger point is that we can either be militant about it, or we can say, "Alright, they're asking me to accept this as canon. Now...how the fuck do we go about doing that?" while still kind of not caring about KjA's "work." As it's fiction, and not history, it lends itself particularly well to being approached from a number of angles without affecting how you actually feel about things.

I wrote:I'm not saying it's okay. I'd rather the new Dune books were never written, or if they had, that they'd been handled by someone with a better understanding of the universe. I'm also not suggesting anyone accept them as canon, as I don't, and don't expect anyone interested in entertaining this whim of mine to, either.

What I'm positing is that, since we're being asked to accept the damn books as canon, it might prove amusing - say, during a bout of insomnia or procrastination - to try and figure out why the fuck the Guild would have robotic shuttles after the Butlerian Jihad.

SandRider wrote:Out to dinner or to someone's home?

What did you have ?

Is there a special meal associated with Guy Fawkes ?

How's your mum ?

SandRider wrote:ruptured disc between L4&L5, compressed L5 scraping S1, I've been shot up with all kinds of steriods and traction and loritabs that I'm not supposed to be taking and drinking but fuck that, and haven't you read my rambling, pain & drug induced rants that look similar to this only with a lot more typos and misspellings and make much less sense ? Okay maybe not much less sense, but anyway I'm waiting for the surgeons to decide when they want to cut into me so I'm kinda trapped here in the house in front of this computer command station in a real comfy chair with wheels that I've got the dogs harnessed to so I can get up and down the hall and over to the liquor cabinet. Now we're doing the "chat" thing that's been irritating people. How was your week ?