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Pretards of Dune: Where are they now ?

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 02:59
by SandRider
After it was clear that the UT was going to hand A&M their asses,
I went Over There, and dug back a couple of years, to the summer
of 2006 to be exact. And I've got a question:

Where are all those pretards now ?

THE ALMIGHTY ZEUS, Cymek, cowluva, Razuur,
Raziel, &etc. Oh, and especially Omar.

Have they all given up their cause ?
Where have they landed ?

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 03:45
by Omphalos
Omar shows up on Chig's blog occasionally and posts ridiculous comments about what fools he now thinks KJA and BH are. It's almost laughable how hard he tries to prove that he is now an OH.

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 04:30
by SandChigger
Omar's cool.

Actually, he's the one reason I haven't written off all Latinos as complete fucking idiots.

TAZ is still around on MySpace; I posted a link to his page (recently opened up to public viewing...and yes, like midget porn, it was all I had dreamed it could be and more :lol: ) over on T(A)U last week or so. I think I saw where he'd wished Kevvy a Happy Halloween. Or Thanksgiving? Trying to re-ingratiate his way back in with Uncle Kevvy? Anyway, he's fairly quiet now as far as things Dune go. Must have finally learned something from everyone handing him ass all the time.

Nah, probably not! :P

Cymek ... he wasn't all that bad, was he? Or am I just forgetting? I think cowluva was after my time. Razuur doesn't ring any bells. Raziel was the one with the computer game vampire avatar, right? I seem to remember him/her as not being all that bad, either.

Anh, times past. ;)

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 10:09
by Lisan Al-Gaib
SandChigger wrote:
Actually, he's the one reason I haven't written off all Latinos as complete fucking idiots.
:shock:

That phrase makes me want to stop writing here...

I'm Brazilian and I know a same number of idiot people from everywhere. Coming from South America doesn't make you more stupid. I know the social problems here are big, but there are many intelligent people from here as anywhere else.

What you said made me very sad, man.

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 10:58
by Simon
Lisan Al-Gaib wrote:
SandChigger wrote:
Actually, he's the one reason I haven't written off all Latinos as complete fucking idiots.
:shock:

That phrase makes me want to stop writing here...

I'm Brazilian and I know a same number of idiot people from everywhere. Coming from South America doesn't make you more stupid. I know the social problems here are big, but there are many intelligent people from here as anywhere else.

What you said made me very sad, man.
Hear.Hear.

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 11:14
by loremaster
If i thought that 'chig meant it, i`d come down on him for that comment too :-).

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 12:08
by GamePlayer
Everybody's got their problems :)

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 13:47
by Drunken Idaho
Lisan Al-Gaib wrote:
SandChigger wrote:
Actually, he's the one reason I haven't written off all Latinos as complete fucking idiots.
:shock:

That phrase makes me want to stop writing here...

I'm Brazilian and I know a same number of idiot people from everywhere. Coming from South America doesn't make you more stupid. I know the social problems here are big, but there are many intelligent people from here as anywhere else.

What you said made me very sad, man.
Chig's name alone offends three different cultures already. It's pretty obvious that he's a blatant racist, so why let such a prick get to you?

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 13:49
by Omphalos
Cymek was alright. He was a moderate, like that other guy from Florida. IIRC he would at least listen to arguments and admit shortfalls. Cant remember his name but he can be found on Chig's MySpace page now too.

Omar? Im sorry Chig, I hear that you like him, but I just cannot take that guy seriously. Its like, he loved the books for so long, so he obviously got something out of them, then he read one book that was a bit shittier than the others, and all of a sudden he was trash talking KJA and BH, whom two weeks before you looked up to? Sorry. I guess I view him the same way the Baron viewed Yueh. Traitors deserve nothing, even if they trade to our side.

I always wondered what happened to Reverend Mother. I liked her, talking about herself in the third person and whatnot. Someone told me that fucking wingnut Anthony tried to stalk her in Florida or something. Maybe that's not right, because IIRC she was from Mass., but something happened between them.

Speaking of Anthony, is he still around? I got into a nasty off-board flame war with him once. He kept saying he was going to find me and take my water. :lol: What an asshole!

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 13:55
by Omphalos
Drunken Idaho wrote:Chig's name alone offends three different cultures already. It's pretty obvious that he's a blatant racist, so why let such a prick get to you?
Well, if you have ever read any of his other comments, you would know that is pretty much wrong-o. Put yourself into the shoes of an ex-pat living in an Asian country. Shit like that slips out sometime, because its easy to over-generalize.

By the way, what did Chig ever do to you to deserve that comment? Seems out of left field and pretty much unwarranted to me.

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 13:56
by Nekhrun
Omphalos wrote:Speaking of Anthony, is he still around? I got into a nasty off-board flame war with him once. He kept saying he was going to find me and take my water. :lol: What an asshole!
He claimed on the old board once that he was a martial arts instructor or something. I even think that RM took a class from him or something. He was constantly trying to flirt with her on the boards. If she likes and/or hangs out with him I've lost all respect for her as well. That guy's a tool.

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 14:01
by Omphalos
Nekhrun wrote:
Omphalos wrote:Speaking of Anthony, is he still around? I got into a nasty off-board flame war with him once. He kept saying he was going to find me and take my water. :lol: What an asshole!
He claimed on the old board once that he was a martial arts instructor or something. I even think that RM took a class from him or something. He was constantly trying to flirt with her on the boards. If she likes and/or hangs out with him I've lost all respect for her as well. That guy's a tool.
I remember that. He also claims to be able to heal ailments with massage and magnets, IIRC. :roll:

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 14:53
by Drunken Idaho
Omphalos wrote:
Drunken Idaho wrote:Chig's name alone offends three different cultures already. It's pretty obvious that he's a blatant racist, so why let such a prick get to you?
Well, if you have ever read any of his other comments, you would know that is pretty much wrong-o. Put yourself into the shoes of an ex-pat living in an Asian country. Shit like that slips out sometime, because its easy to over-generalize.

By the way, what did Chig ever do to you to deserve that comment? Seems out of left field and pretty much unwarranted to me.
I don't really have anything against him, but I felt the need to console Lisan Al-Gaib, who you can't deny was pretty offended... And sure, random things slip out, but a screen name cannot be classified as a slip.

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 15:25
by SandRider
Chigger wrote:Omar's cool.
You must be more forgiving and not hold a grudge as long as I do,
neither of which are traits I would have associated with you. Omar
has 140 posts still up Over There, I read about 50 of them, each
one making me mutter "Boot to the Head" .....

I guess anyone can see Jesus on the Road to Damascus, but that
just makes me question their conviction, integrity and honesty.
Drunken Idaho wrote:Chig's name alone offends three different cultures already.
I got two of them (arabs, africans) but what's the third ?


But my real original question was, literally, where are the pretards now ?
They are obviously not Over There, is there a pretard site I have yet to discover ?
Or after their experiances Over There and on the Amazon Review pages, have
they all just quit ?

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 15:28
by Nekhrun
SandRider wrote:
Drunken Idaho wrote:Chig's name alone offends three different cultures already.
I got two of them (arabs, africans) but what's the third ?
Entomologists.

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 15:36
by Omphalos
Drunken Idaho wrote:
Omphalos wrote:
Drunken Idaho wrote:Chig's name alone offends three different cultures already. It's pretty obvious that he's a blatant racist, so why let such a prick get to you?
Well, if you have ever read any of his other comments, you would know that is pretty much wrong-o. Put yourself into the shoes of an ex-pat living in an Asian country. Shit like that slips out sometime, because its easy to over-generalize.

By the way, what did Chig ever do to you to deserve that comment? Seems out of left field and pretty much unwarranted to me.
I don't really have anything against him, but I felt the need to console Lisan Al-Gaib, who you can't deny was pretty offended... And sure, random things slip out, but a screen name cannot be classified as a slip.
Are you saying that Chig's screen name equates with the term "nigger" or "sand-nigger" :lol:

What about a biting insect from the sand? Did you consider that possiblility? His role-play on this and other forums is of a bug with three assholes, not a cross-burner, and his avatar for years was actually an insect, not a hooded fiend. Oh...wait a minute! :wink: Just kidding Chig.

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 15:41
by A Thing of Eternity
Nekhrun wrote:
SandRider wrote:
Drunken Idaho wrote:Chig's name alone offends three different cultures already.
I got two of them (arabs, africans) but what's the third ?
Entomologists.
:lol:

A sand chigger could be an Arab Chinese African cross.

Chinese, hense the "Ch". That said - that's not what his name is meant to mean, I actually PM'd him about it once and he hadn't even realized it could mean something like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chigger

Anyways, I think he was joking with that Latino comment, Fantomas and Arnoldo might - just might be who he was referring to. :wink:

It was still rude though, but I wouldn't write Chig off as any kind of racist, just a guy with a strange sense of humour.


EDIT: I see Omph beat me to the explanation.

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 16:02
by Drunken Idaho
SandRider wrote:
Drunken Idaho wrote:Chig's name alone offends three different cultures already.
I got two of them (arabs, africans) but what's the third ?
The term Chigger is a derogitory term for a person of both Chinese and African descent. Alternatively, it is an oriental person who dresses in "thugged-out" clothing, a la many African-American rappers.

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 16:08
by Drunken Idaho
A Thing of Eternity wrote:
Nekhrun wrote:
SandRider wrote:
Drunken Idaho wrote:Chig's name alone offends three different cultures already.
I got two of them (arabs, africans) but what's the third ?
Entomologists.
:lol:

A sand chigger could be an Arab Chinese African cross.

Chinese, hense the "Ch". That said - that's not what his name is meant to mean, I actually PM'd him about it once and he hadn't even realized it could mean something like that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chigger

Anyways, I think he was joking with that Latino comment, Fantomas and Arnoldo might - just might be who he was referring to. :wink:

It was still rude though, but I wouldn't write Chig off as any kind of racist, just a guy with a strange sense of humour.


EDIT: I see Omph beat me to the explanation.
Pardon my ignorance about fleas and mites... :oops:

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 16:10
by SandRider
Chigger is a very common nickname in the South, often associated with a guy with a gimp leg
(why that is, I've never figgered out). "chiggers" is a also a catch-all name for small biting insects, no-see-ums, etc, that burrow under the skin.

I have never in my long life heard Chigger as a derogatory term for the
Chinese, but I can see how it could evolve ...

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 16:21
by GamePlayer
Of course! Why else do you think I call him my chigga? :wink: :P

"My Chigga: The shit's chess, it ain't checkers."

Man the fuck up! Hit that shit! :)

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 17:42
by Drunken Idaho
Omphalos wrote:
Drunken Idaho wrote:
Omphalos wrote:
Drunken Idaho wrote:Chig's name alone offends three different cultures already. It's pretty obvious that he's a blatant racist, so why let such a prick get to you?
Well, if you have ever read any of his other comments, you would know that is pretty much wrong-o. Put yourself into the shoes of an ex-pat living in an Asian country. Shit like that slips out sometime, because its easy to over-generalize.

By the way, what did Chig ever do to you to deserve that comment? Seems out of left field and pretty much unwarranted to me.
I don't really have anything against him, but I felt the need to console Lisan Al-Gaib, who you can't deny was pretty offended... And sure, random things slip out, but a screen name cannot be classified as a slip.
Are you saying that Chig's screen name equates with the term "nigger" or "sand-nigger" :lol:

What about a biting insect from the sand? Did you consider that possiblility? His role-play on this and other forums is of a bug with three assholes, not a cross-burner, and his avatar for years was actually an insect, not a hooded fiend. Oh...wait a minute! :wink: Just kidding Chig.
It doesn't equate, but adding the "sand" part sure is suggestive... And you don't have to wear a white hood to be racist. I'm sure the latino reference was meant to be an over-simplification meant for comedy, it's just that my point to Lisan was "why let asshole racists get to you like that?"

Besides, this whole discussion is null since RACISM IS OVER, remember? Obama's painting the white house black! You see, my creating that thread and claiming such an outrageous thing was the same thing: an over-simplification meant for comedy...

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 20:51
by SandChigger
Lisan, I am very sorry. I was thinking of arnoldo and Fantomas (and, to some extent, of Omar when he first joined Dumb Novels) when I wrote that. I should have been specific and named them and not stooped to an ethnic description. You should know by now that I don't consider you an idiot.

(I can't say the same for everyone here, of course.)


As for my user name, if I were really a racist, why would I choose one that referred to people I hated?

I do have my prejudices. But they're based on what people do and how they think (or don't think?), NOT their racial background.

Posted: 28 Nov 2008 23:46
by Lisan Al-Gaib
I understand, Sandchigger. Thanks very much.

I thought you are directly referring to Arnoldo (and other that I don't really know), but your generalization made me a little sad because I like to read your posts and discuss the things with you. So, how I would do that thinking you have this type of prejudice, do you understand?

But it's ok. I'm not a radical man!

Well, lets continue our job here: Protect the legacy of our favorite writer!

Posted: 29 Nov 2008 00:12
by Rakis
where are the pretards now ?
I think TAZ is now a cheap hooker in Toronto... :)